kyle.presley
Well-known member
Loved it! I would have worked more on the costuming, and getting the right kind of grass to chew on, but the story was very, very good.
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thetvirus513
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Kyle,
I'm glad you liked it, if I may ask.....what is the right kind of grass to chew on??? Seriously though, thanks for the kind words....I'll be watching yours shortly and I'm really looking forward to it!
I just need to point out that the composer did the flashback sound.Thanks, Jason. It's all the same instruments as in the music, mostly backwards or pitch-shifted out of their normal ranges.
Indeed, thanks for that. Because it saved me some time to concentrate on other things.
Although, I would have been able to make them too :laugh::2vrolijk_08:
The most important rule of filmmaking: kill your darlings.
thetvirus513
Well-known member
Yah but if we didn't have them then our opening shot would have been at the bridge, and I just think it would have been boring to not have any change of location the whole movie......it's all about weighing your options.....
Brandon Rice
Distributed Producer
Eidolon
Really enjoyed this one. The story was well told, and you did a good job of revealing it in a natural way with dialogue. Sometimes when a film is very dialogue driven the writing can be spot-on, but I am glad you stayed away from that. The look of the film was nice too. Would have liked to see more coverage on the bridge, maybe a medium shot of each character, to mix in with your three other shots? Overall a great effort, especially considering this was your first festival! Good job!
Really enjoyed this one. The story was well told, and you did a good job of revealing it in a natural way with dialogue. Sometimes when a film is very dialogue driven the writing can be spot-on, but I am glad you stayed away from that. The look of the film was nice too. Would have liked to see more coverage on the bridge, maybe a medium shot of each character, to mix in with your three other shots? Overall a great effort, especially considering this was your first festival! Good job!
randin
Well-known member
Yeah, I'm sure you could've.
I'm apparently just desperate enough for validation to claim that little bit of credit. rogar-BlackEye(DBG I like in theory that it is the same instruments pulled out of the score for those sounds, but of course the viewer would never know the difference!Great job, by the way. Viewers will be totally unaware of the difference in rain noise between the different shots thanks to you! Those things that everyone takes for granted make the film.
Rodney V. Smith
DVXFest Promo Guru
Hey guys, watched your film and for the most part I enjoyed it. Iit was an impactful story and told simply. Good use of sound effects on the transitions, but some of the background noise was a little distracting and could have been faded away as the scene got more emotional. One of the things that I found really missing was the use of a good soild closeup as the old guy divulged more iinformation about the past. Really take us into his his and let us feel his pain. That hurt the storytelling aspect.
Overall I liked your actors, especially the young one. The older guys didn't draw me in and at times it felt like he was reading a speech instead of speaking from the heart. This may be the fault of the director or just circustances on the day of the shoot, whatever it is, I don't know. All I know is that the guy was looking back on his most shameful secret, something that led to a lifelong psychotic condition where he imagine his son alive for decades, and he's finally able to talk about it... and it's an eloquent speech. It's not soul tearing for him or us and I really didn;t find myself feeling the pain or his madness. Iit was just anohter story. The actor had a great voice that could have pulled us in more, but the performance on that piece was lacking entirely.
I saw alot to like in this movie and wanted it to do so well, especially after reading the script. Great effort putting it together and I commend you for that.
Overall I liked your actors, especially the young one. The older guys didn't draw me in and at times it felt like he was reading a speech instead of speaking from the heart. This may be the fault of the director or just circustances on the day of the shoot, whatever it is, I don't know. All I know is that the guy was looking back on his most shameful secret, something that led to a lifelong psychotic condition where he imagine his son alive for decades, and he's finally able to talk about it... and it's an eloquent speech. It's not soul tearing for him or us and I really didn;t find myself feeling the pain or his madness. Iit was just anohter story. The actor had a great voice that could have pulled us in more, but the performance on that piece was lacking entirely.
I saw alot to like in this movie and wanted it to do so well, especially after reading the script. Great effort putting it together and I commend you for that.
I think in this case, fading away sounds would have been more "shoking". Because when you fade away a sound, and you fade back in... You can hear it. In this case because of rain, no rain, rain, no rain, rain no rain, rain, no rain...
Normaly things like this is 100% ADR. And then you can fade away from the rain as much as you like without someone noticing.
But I wanted to keep it "one line" also... Not to much up and down
Rodney V. Smith
DVXFest Promo Guru
I getcha Andre. Believe me I know all about limitations and bet the bugs just shouldnt shut up around that time.
Marlon Ladd
Veteran
I enjoyed your film and don't know if I've already said it or not, but I love the poster! This was a really good story. The younger actor really did a good job, but the other actor was inconsistent at times and some of his lines seemed forced, especially when he kept leaning in to say them. Having said that, he did have his moments. The dialogue did seem to be drowned out by background noise a tad, but we could still hear their voices. The father's voice on his last two lines was obviously so different. It didn't even sound like the same voice. I don't know if anybody else will notice that or not, but if there's any way to fix it, that would certainly be of benefit.
The flashbacks were just awesome and pulled me right in. The sound of the shovel hitting the ground was great too. The flashbacks were so good it had me wanting more. Good job on this and BTW - the quality looked very nice! Was that a 24-70mm canon L lens that I see in that BTS shot?
The flashbacks were just awesome and pulled me right in. The sound of the shovel hitting the ground was great too. The flashbacks were so good it had me wanting more. Good job on this and BTW - the quality looked very nice! Was that a 24-70mm canon L lens that I see in that BTS shot?
Gary Sconce
Veteran
Did you change tha protagonist's voice in ADR? It was very different at the end.
You put together a touching, well shot film. Congratulations!rogar-BigGrin(DBG)
You put together a touching, well shot film. Congratulations!
rogar-BigGrin(DBG)Homunculus
Carbonite Member
very expertly done. the older actor in particular was legit. the intermittent flashbacks were very effective as was the sound work in my opinion. very effective and economical use of what mostly boiled down to 3 different shots, i.e. the wide shot and the closeups on their faces throughout the whole film.
and yes the voice at teh end sounds very different as someone said "I regret it everyday" sounds like a completely different person...what gives?
and yes the voice at teh end sounds very different as someone said "I regret it everyday" sounds like a completely different person...what gives?
thetvirus513
Well-known member
Brandon,
Im really glad you liked it. We were a little worried of the heavy dialogue as not many films in the dvxfests tend to be like that but I'm glad you thought we pulled it off. We did have a few more shots on the bridge, in fact you saw a medium in there once or twice, but the framing on our medium shots did not turn out to our liking. Thanks!
thetvirus513
Well-known member
Rodney,
Thanks for a long well thought out critique, we REALLY appreciate it. I know you and Andre talked about the background noise, but believe me, he did an excellent job considering that half our shots had pouring rain and half had nothing as the rain was so spotty that morning. I get what you mean too about the older actor and given the circumstances should have been more emotional and I thank you for pointing that out. Thanks for your kind words and your advice we greatly appreciate it!
thetvirus513
Well-known member
I'm glad you liked the film AND the poster haha. I could definitely see when the older guy leaned in to be a bit forced, we rushed the shooting due to rain and not much rain gear, and payed for it in the end with limited takes. The background noise has been mentioned and I could see it being a bit drowned out but with what we had (rain pouring in some shots and not there at all in others) Andre did a VERY good job at covering it all up and making it seem consistent. And I think that was the 16-35L on there!
thetvirus513
Well-known member
Did you change tha protagonist's voice in ADR? It was very different at the end.
You put together a touching, well shot film. Congratulations!
Yah that is our big complaint, we had to do ADR last minute for those two lines and after he left and we looked at it, he had spoken soooooo much deeper. We might redo that later for a little bit of an extended cut, i know it really bugs us, and I'm surprised you were the first to comment on it......
thetvirus513
Well-known member
I'm glad you liked it overall, and that you appreciate our "economical" use or three shots lol. We had more coverage but we didn't really like the framing on some shots when we looked at it later in post. I'm glad you liked the flashbacks too, those were my favorite parts. Yah the ADR at the end, he just spoke in a much deeper voice, but it was so last minute and he didn't have room in his schedule to redo it, so perhaps we will redo it for an extended cut. Thanks!
Blaine
Mr. Hollywood
Good story. Overall I liked it but the talking heads got a bit monotonous. I'd have loved to seen the world open up a bit more and show more of the past he was talking about to break the bridge scene up a little more.
I loved what the rain added to the overall feel of the piece.
Gotta agree on the ADR of the father's dialogue at the end. The difference was jarring.
I loved what the rain added to the overall feel of the piece.
Gotta agree on the ADR of the father's dialogue at the end. The difference was jarring.
Tom Marshall
Actor!!!!!!
My comments are similar to earlier ones regarding the older guy. I didn't realize what was going on until he talked about burying his son. The acting didn't really portray what was going on in the story arc.
I know a lot of people buck that up to the director not pulling the performance out of the actor, but that's simply not the case. If every actor was capable of a great performance, then there would be a lot more actors in Hollywood films. That's like saying a good orchestra conductor can make anyone play a perfect violin solo. The talent has to be there. I'm not necessarily knocking the actor. I'm just trying to point out the fact that whomever directed the short wasn't necessarily to blame for the viewer to not completely "get it" as far as the overall story arc is concerned.
I know a lot of people buck that up to the director not pulling the performance out of the actor, but that's simply not the case. If every actor was capable of a great performance, then there would be a lot more actors in Hollywood films. That's like saying a good orchestra conductor can make anyone play a perfect violin solo. The talent has to be there. I'm not necessarily knocking the actor. I'm just trying to point out the fact that whomever directed the short wasn't necessarily to blame for the viewer to not completely "get it" as far as the overall story arc is concerned.