D7000 Official!

ethan cooper said:
...showing off how far you can push the thing till it breaks is kinda what you'd want..
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For me it's not. It's a marketing video, as you stated, so they should try to give the BEST impression possible and not some 'guess what ISO this is and how good it might look if shot properly' thing. They can do that as well, but not for a first impression.

It's like serving you a raw piece of meat and saying 'just imagine how delicious it would be if grilled and served with vegetables and baked potatoes'.

I'm not blaming the guy, he's a photographer after all, I don't understand the marketing guys. This is a about video. Any of us know that using a DSLR for video is different than taking stills with it.

This is just my feeling, I've watched the short and just wasn't convinced. But I strongly feel that it would have been possible to do so, it just makes me mad.
 
i dont get you guys , only complains , this is a great camera it seems , they fixed the rolling shutter issues , 1080p video , and video full manual controls , it exectly what ive been looking for , a much improved d90

and why would stills photographer would be dissapointed with 39AF points , and that image quality .

it looks very promising , and i dont think video is all about bitrate and codec , canon and panasonic both have higher bitrate , and probably allot sharper SO WHAT ??
they still have IMO very bad videoish synthetic look
 
@dadoboy - "Other than the fact that this is Nikon's first DSLR with 1080p and manual controls, can someone fill me in why this might be a more exciting product than the Canon 60D?"

If the AF is useable, that could be a big deal;

If this is truly a D90 upgrade, you get what could be one of the world's best still camera bodies for way under $2k;

I agree with those that like the way the D90 video renders colors & light; but the stairstepping and jello were a deal breaker - this could be a subtle to large step up in image quality or at least aesthetics - we'll see.

@androoow - no articulated lcd , odd why only its D5000 has that

My guess is that Nikon views that as a "consumer feature". As a guy who shoots stills for a large chunk of my mortgage, I'd be leery of it as something else to break. As a guy involved in marketing, I'd agree that a serious still shooter could see it as "consumery", regardless of its real utility.

The D90 sensor just has some real magic mojo for stills - hope this "improved" sensor rocks it that well.
 
t.p. said:
i dont get you guys , only complains , this is a great camera it seems , they fixed the rolling shutter issues , 1080p video , and video full manual controls , it exectly what ive been looking for , a much improved d90
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So you can't comprehend that although it may be exactly what you're looking for it may not be exactly what everyone else is looking for?

I want slo-mo. This camera simply cannot do it. Canon's can. GH1 can. This can't.

t.p. said:
canon and panasonic both have higher bitrate , and probably allot sharper SO WHAT ??
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Seriously?
 
iHartVideo said:
So you can't comprehend that although it may be exactly what you're looking for it may not be exactly what everyone else is looking for?

I want slo-mo. This camera simply cannot do it. Canon's can. GH1 can. This can't.



Seriously?
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So how does your complaint add to the discussion?

It's obvious the D7000 doesn't do slo-mo, so you need to look elsewhere. Why spam up this thread?

JohnG
 
I watched the videos again, now in a 1080 TV

* jello is practically gone; in this respect, it looks better than the canons
* I definitely see aliasing; I didn't see moire, but if line-skipping is still there, moire will appear, depending on the subject
* no idea about the codec, because of the lousy youtube compression

in general it looks quite good, just not much better than the canons

it's good news that we can welcome nikon to the party, we just have to realize that they're not starting out with a home run, just some serious competition

pros:
* a bit less wobble
* similar construction, lower price than the 7D / better construction than 60D or 550D/t2i
* not that I'm going to use it (all my lenses are manual), but autofocus during video with subject tracking could be nice (if/when it works)

cons:
* no 720p60
* 50% more expensive than the 550D/t2i, which may have similar video quality (jury still out on codec, low-light and colors)
* no swivel screen
* 4:3 screen
- details on what "manual controls in video" means still missing


hands-on video from Nikon Denmark:
http://www.vimeo.com/14992593
 
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I want slo-mo. This camera simply cannot do it. Canon's can. GH1 can. This can't.
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Well, it means this is not the camera for you. Maybe for a million other people is, but not for you. Thanks God we now have many choices to choose from.
 
John Godden said:
So how does your complaint add to the discussion?

It's obvious the D7000 doesn't do slo-mo, so you need to look elsewhere. Why spam up this thread?

JohnG
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How does someone saying "its the perfect camera" add to the discussion? How does your post add to it?

I'm giving a viewpoint. Something for others reading this thread to consider.
Believe me... I would've loved to have seen a wider range of viewpoints before I bought my D300s. Highlighting the parts it lacks is important for people making a buying decision & weighing pros & cons.
 
People make their own decisions based on their OWN needs, not somebody else's. I learned that from my experience with the D90. I criticized the video quality and people went and bought it for that anyway. I still use for my stills work. I went out and bought a GH1 for my video work. If the d7000 doesn't have something we need then we don't buy it. If somebody else is going to get great use out of it then is time to buy. Is that simple. It is our own personal choice. If you look at the specs and the camera doesn't do slow mo and you need it then you move along to another camera. Yes, is that simple.
 
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iHartVideo :
"So you can't comprehend that although it may be exactly what you're looking for it may not be exactly what everyone else is looking for?
I want slo-mo. This camera simply cannot do it. Canon's can. GH1 can. This can't."

you may quite right it may be that maybe other people is looking for something else , i just state my view and i think nikon made a big step towards her customers

about the slomo,you are right again , t2i and 7d can do slomo and d7000 cant , so like said here before buy a canon or wait for the d400 maybe these feature will be there with FF

about the bitrate and sharpness - "Seriously?"
absolutely 100% serious , and again this is my personal Preference , maybe not everyone else , but i argue that if you look at film camera's vs digital you'll see that red , arri alexa etc... are much sharper than traditional film panavision etc... also ,they have much less noise and grain than the traditinal film look , does this mean in anyway , that you get better footage in digital - i think not , nikon in some mysterious way been able to maintain this great look which is much more organic and cinematic ,
why does no one here never talk about Latitude & Dynamic Range ?

only chasing technology features , like high bitrates , knife sharpness and and bigger MP ,i may be alone here in this opnion but i think all this things is peripheral
a good image is a good image , and im thrilled that nikon although moving to cmos seem to keep their distinct look , and with fixing all the d90 problemtic issues and adding manual control , makes the d7000 a great cam
 
iHartVideo said:
Where do you get that from?
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If you know your Canon and Nikon cameras, then you have the answer to that question.

Nikon is better then canon at iso performance and has been for a long time, while Canon has had other strenghts. And the D7000 has some seriously good iso performance, even for a Nikon camera.

I would asume by specs and user reports that the only Nikon cameras out right now that can rival the iso performance and qualityis the D700 and D3s, and the Canon D60 doesnt reach that kind of level.

Now, i´m not knocking the D60. It´s a nice dslr and it have other strenghts, like being able to do 720p60, so if you pick up a D60 instead you´ll still be a very happy puppy.

As for organic look´s, i´m all with whomever said that. I love the organic look, or what to call it from the Nikon dslr´s vs the clean digital look of the canon´s.

A pity it´s just been hard to get consistent quality out of previous Nikons. But the D7000 seems to have nailed that area with manual controls, alot less jello and rolling shutter.
 
Chill folks. A lot of us have been waiting for this announcement.

Now we'll be waiting for definitive tests from filmmakers, "real" test footage downloads and user reports. Then we can argue about those!!!

I'm as disappointed as anyone about the 60p issue. Currently my setup is D90 for stills, T2i for Video, lots of Nikon glass and a couple lens adapters. And a mint, low hours DVX, collecting dust.

If the image is a noticeable step up, I'll consider selling the D90 and the DVX and getting the D7000, and relegating the T2i to slowmo shots. Which will mean a 2nd rails & viewfinder setup, or some kind of quick change deal.

this sh*tis never cut & dried, is it?
 
Vitaliy Kiselev said:
At least Nikon owners got proper camera :-)
Very good Sony sensor. Perfect body, perfect viewfinder. Good price.
1080p24 and 720p24.
I am not sure about bitrate.
But overall this is first time then I want to have Nikon body :-)
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Any existing Nikon owners who have been holding out should now be happy. It's a great reason to stick with Nikon and not switch to Canon.
 
It also says in that FAQ that Manual control over ISO sensitivity and shutter speed can be adjusted. I imagine that means aperture will have to be done outside of live view still?
 
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