Thoughts on rumored 5D Mark IV

Canon would have to really lean on the "old school" aspect to market a 2MP camera! :) Would be the undisputed low light champion though.
 
combatentropy said:
Now I'm ticked. It's probably 8K with rolling shutter...
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5DS is possibly (probably?) NO-K, as in "no video" a la Nikon DF. And it actually makes some sense, if it's true. They can lower the price point by saving on the video processing and subsequently release a video oriented 5D MK IV with fewer pixels.

Doing some numbers - if this does only 3 FPS in full mode, it's 152 MPX/s, just enough for 1080p, but the required pixel binning would not create a pleasing picture. They, of course, could do it in a crop mode and the camera is capable of shooting stills that way but they ought to be thinking that it's better to have no video in an elite camera than have a crappy video.

Really, 5DS ought to be a phenomenal portrait camera for a remarkably low price - especially when adding up the lens prices - when compared to the medium format types like Hasselblad, Leica and Mamiya.
 
Personally, I'm fed up shooting big slow expensive medium format cameras for stills jobs. Could not be happier that Canon is producing an ergonomic, less expensive solution.
 
Intuitive Films said:
I still think 50mpx is overkill unless, of course, you plan to print your picture to the size of a building.
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High MPX sensors allow for high quality edits, pans and pan&scans, especially with with large 4K and soon 4K+ TV's and monitors coming out in droves.

OK, a part of it is due to marketing but photo sensors has been have been on the "pixel peeping watch" since the beginning and each major step met some form of ridicule. So, in some respect, people don't need either 50 MPX sensors or the 500 HP automobiles. Yet both fly off the shelves.
 
Some things to keep in mind:

-The difference between 20MP and 50MP is not nearly as large as it sounds when printing at 300dpi
-Large blowups typically get viewed at a distance which makes high resolution images not as crucial
-The majority of lenses (even L series) can't even resolve 50MP under the best of conditions
-A well taken and sharp 20MP image that was cropped to 8MP can be blown up very large and you probably wouldn't even realize it was only 8MP. A soft 50MP image will be noticlbey soft when blown up.

Unless all I was shooting was landscapes and studio portraits, I prefer to have a 20MP camera that is better in low light, has a faster burst frame rate and has smaller file sizes.

Dynamic range and color depth are two things I could never get enough of and thats the only thing thats still has me thinking I might want to see how the 5DS stacks up to the 5D IV
 
I aggree with most of that ^, with two qualifications:

* Even if the majority of lenses can't resolve even 20 MP, you get sharper images with a 36MP sensor than with a 21Mp sensor. Here.
* A sensor with more mpix usually will have a much slower total readout time, which means you're more likely to be forced to use aggressive line skipping for video, which usually means aliasing/moire.

My current cam (a7S) has 12 Mpix and it shoots really nice stills, sharp and detailed. Could be sharper, could be more detailed, but it could also have more DR and I care more about that than about resolution.
 
In theory, bigger photosites mean better DR and low light capabilities, but there must be some offseting issues when those photosites get really big, because the a7S has clearly less DR than the a7 and a7r at low ISO.
 
FWIW, 5Ds is reported to be priced at €3,500 "over there" and will probably be the same in the US (~ $3,500), with 5Dr (no AA filter) slightly higher.

I presume that 5D MK IV will be in the same ballpark as well.
 
combatentropy said:
I agree at this point too. I'm tired of lop-sided cameras.
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Oh wow. SO on the money!

I still just cannot believe how accepting everyone has been of CMOS rolling shutter - and I'm not even quite as concerned with the jello effect so much as capturing FLASHES!

I cannot even begin to count how many times there were flashes from photographers or effect light present in 3-CCD video that I've shot...and it always looked cool. It looked fine. It showed us what was seen. In fact I could often pull AMAZING stills from the frames when someone else's flash lit up the scene in some way or another.

Then CMOS comes along and utterly destroys this, leaving shots with a flash it in, LIKE WEDDINGS MAYBE, looking beyond horrible...AND PEOPLE FOUND THIS ANYWHERE NEAR ACCEPTABLE ON AN EXPENSIVE CAMERA???

I was baffled.

If we could get, say...Nikon D810 quality video at 1080P without rolling shutter I would be perfectly happy with that.
 
Northlight is speculating that this might be 5D C, a something close to performance to 1D C - notice the sensor - in a 5D body.

5D MK IV then will be a universal camera and a competitor to D810.
 
http://www.canonrumors.com/

Reports 5D MK IV will have the same (type?) of a dual sensor readout as C300 MK II. I'll speculate that the 4K will be in center crop because the sensor will probably have a high enough pixel count to be a quality stills camera as well.
 
That's the kind of rumor that I file under "somebody thought, wouldn't it be nice if... but he had absolutely no info about it"
 
I dunno ... stick the 24 MPX A7 sensor into it, add a dual readout to improve the DR in video, do a center-crop 4K a la GH4 and call it a day. A quick and dirty way to make for more than acceptable hybrid cam that checks a lot of boxes for a lot of shooters and yet doesn't cannibalize their cinema line sales.
 
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