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Brook Willard
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That's all well and good... but what does it taste like?
mike the beginner
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The controls on the rear are a compromise between a lot of factors. There are options for additional controls placed wherever you want.
Jim
Now that is what i really like about red, accomodating preferences in the one camera!
You want the red rails as it is...fine, you want a record button on the right handle for your thumb to press...fine you have that option. It might cost a little bit more but if it's what you need, you want the menu's available on the left of the camera, we can do something there as well. We want bigger red drives, you got it 320Gb. You want raid, you got it.
I hope some of those who rubbish red and us so called cheerleaders see why we are so damned pleased with this red camera. Er...excuse me big camera company (avoiding naming) but i would like your forthcoming camera to have......Aye right son, on yer bike.
Michael
Clint Johnson
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Brook Willard said:
I thought that was established already... smooth like chocolate!
Mmmmm chocolate.
firewallet
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mike the beginner said:
No doubt Michael. Though, the last bit cracked me up (as said in a thick scottish brogue-hahaha):beer:
Stephen Williams
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mike the beginner said:
Hi Michael,
Historically film cameras were always made to order and final specification of the client.
Try and find 2 Aaton LTR's that are the same!
Stephen
firewallet
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Hi Stephen,
I don't think Aaton was on his mind at that moment... Personally, I love (and have used) the various Aatons. Myself, I thought he was referencing a company in the east, but anyway...
Andrew Benz
I don't think Aaton was on his mind at that moment... Personally, I love (and have used) the various Aatons. Myself, I thought he was referencing a company in the east, but anyway...
Andrew Benz
Brook Willard
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I'm beginning to wonder if anybody will end up mounting their RED upside-down to move the film plane [err... sensor plane] lower while working handheld. Don't get me wrong - the lens is definitely not "high" on the body - but sometimes lower can be better. I'm 6'4" - a high handheld mount can make operating very awkward when the subject is short.
I know that when I finally mount a RED on my skydiving helmet, I just may rig something to mount it upside-down to move the camera's eye closer to my eye.
I know that when I finally mount a RED on my skydiving helmet, I just may rig something to mount it upside-down to move the camera's eye closer to my eye.
Brook Willard said:
i can almost gurantee it.. even though as you mentioned your only gaining a few inches.
lol.. and im 6' 7"... between the three of us can pretty much cover the low, mid and crane shots.
Brook Willard
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Will various mounting points on the body line up with those on the rails if the body was mounted upside-down?
CharlesPapert
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Paint me in with a sad little face that the lens port is so high in terms of Steadicam ergonomics as well as handheld--the RED folk know only too well how much I would have liked to have seen this lower--for that matter, a horizontally oriented camera rather than vertical. Considering that the lens/mattebox/follow focus etc. will likely weigh more than the body itself (for instance, on my current job I'm flying Arri Master Primes which clock in just shy of 5 lbs each), all that mass raises the overall center of gravity considerably, making it less stable for handheld and forcing the gimbal higher for Steadicam and/or requiring a longer post or more counterweight at the base. Those who are planning to use Flyer-sized rigs with this camera, this will most certainly affect you.
Jarred, Brook, you freakishly tall fellows may end up being able to use this to your advantage--what about a setup wherein the camera head is separated from the record drives and battery by a shoulder mount that actually sits between the two components rather than below it, so that the whole thing flies as two pieces at or below shoulder level. Thanks to the positionable eyepiece or monitor you could still view at the appropriate height. This should result in a noticeably stable handheld rig with much less tendency to roll from side to side, as your shoulder pivot would be in line with the vertical center of gravity rather than below it. Certainly it would be considerably longer, but if the battery was beefy enough to counterweight the business at the front (say, a Hytron 140 or two IDX's) and it sat below the drives, it would be reasonable enough length, not worse than a Panavised F900 by any means.
Of course, this is only really useable by you tall chaps, and it would bring the camera down to a more average eyeline. For me at 5'7", such a setup would be useful for shooting older children, wheelchair-bound talent, tallish flightless birds etc...!
Jarred, Brook, you freakishly tall fellows may end up being able to use this to your advantage--what about a setup wherein the camera head is separated from the record drives and battery by a shoulder mount that actually sits between the two components rather than below it, so that the whole thing flies as two pieces at or below shoulder level. Thanks to the positionable eyepiece or monitor you could still view at the appropriate height. This should result in a noticeably stable handheld rig with much less tendency to roll from side to side, as your shoulder pivot would be in line with the vertical center of gravity rather than below it. Certainly it would be considerably longer, but if the battery was beefy enough to counterweight the business at the front (say, a Hytron 140 or two IDX's) and it sat below the drives, it would be reasonable enough length, not worse than a Panavised F900 by any means.
Of course, this is only really useable by you tall chaps, and it would bring the camera down to a more average eyeline. For me at 5'7", such a setup would be useful for shooting older children, wheelchair-bound talent, tallish flightless birds etc...!
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Anders Holck
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Charles, you do seem to be able to compensate though....
CharlesPapert
Director of Photography
Nice pull Anders!!
The "beast with two heads" got us through that shot (it started on my shoulder and ended up in that odd configuration with my dolly grip lending a hand, or two) but I wouldn't want to go this route on a regular basis! On this same show I had to have half-apple height platforms made for certain handheld shots, as well as a ramp that I backed up to avoid seeing a low backlight etc. Definitely us shorties have it tough in the handheld racket (but at least I can get the Steadicam up above even an NBA player's head if necessary!)
The "beast with two heads" got us through that shot (it started on my shoulder and ended up in that odd configuration with my dolly grip lending a hand, or two) but I wouldn't want to go this route on a regular basis! On this same show I had to have half-apple height platforms made for certain handheld shots, as well as a ramp that I backed up to avoid seeing a low backlight etc. Definitely us shorties have it tough in the handheld racket (but at least I can get the Steadicam up above even an NBA player's head if necessary!)