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NorBro said:
There's one on eBay from Focus Camera (NY/NJ) but their website says back-ordered.

Place has mixed reviews but they've been around for a long time.
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Thanks. The only problem there is it would cost me $4200 with tax, vs $3300 for the used fx3 from b&h I just missed (where I skip tax with the payboo card) or even $3K for the used a7siii's i missed. I'm not willing to pay a premium for the camera because I don't need it that badly. $3500 for a new a7siii is basically as high as I'm willing to go
 
Oh, duh, ha...I thought you were going for the FX6.

Maybe step your game up a bit...FS7 clients want it... :grin:
 
I think the fs7 looks like crap relative to the a7siii or the fx6

BUT none of MY fs7 clients seem to have any idea about that. if anything, I receive specific requests for the fs7 and no specific requests for the fx6

and much as I would love the eND, besides that the a7siii or fx3 is a better choice for a 2nd gimbal camera at weddings
 
this is interesting. on amazon, you can buy an fx3 from the Sony store for list price with an estimated delivery time of about 1 month (oct 16-25)

and on B&H, the fx3 is listed with expected availability of end of september. whereas the a7siii is listed as back-ordered with no estimated availability date.

I wonder if sony is going to kill the a7siii altogether in favor of the fx3, which might be indicated by continuing production of the fx3 but not the a7siii. or maybe since the a7siii body is similar to the a7iv, they are better able to convert that production capacity for the a7iv and the a7siii will be produced after the first round of a7iv orders are fulfilled...

anyway, I put in an order at b&h for the fx3 just to be on the safe side. but will probably cancel it later.... an a7iv at $2500 compares quite favorably in price to an fx3 at $3900
 
SIII is a major money maker for Sony, They'll keep making it. They'll keep selling it. Unless there's an SIV somewhere in the wings. Which has been bandied about.

As to the chip shortage, they don't have the shortage of the APS-C vlogger cameras. So, this ought to be temporary.
 
Plus those B&H notices may change frequently.

I've seen 2-4 weeks 'expected availability' one day and 'in stock' the next.
 
Maybe I just need to relax. What's crazy is that now that I realize I can't readily replace my a7siii, I feel like I'm shooting with a faberge egg. Not enough to baby it, since I'm firmly against babying gear. But it seems so much less expendable. A little stressful
 
DLD said:
SIII is a major money maker for Sony, They'll keep making it. They'll keep selling it. .
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I don't know if it is true or not, but years ago I was told by someone who should know, that Sony, Canon, and Sony know exactly how many units of a certain model they will manufacture before they even go on sale. That is an integral part of their forecasting and business planning. Once X number units are sold, then a new model will be introduced to replace it, which will also have a finite number of units planned. Of course, if a product is a flop, then they might not wait that long, but if the product is popular, they know exactly how many will be made. I don't lnow if that is really how it works or not, but it does make sense.
 
ahalpert said:
Maybe I just need to relax. What's crazy is that now that I realize I can't readily replace my a7siii, I feel like I'm shooting with a faberge egg. Not enough to baby it, since I'm firmly against babying gear. But it seems so much less expendable. A little stressful
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In the worst case you just pay up on eBay and lose a job or so but you'd have a camera. Plus tons of rental options (for at least the non-last minute jobs).
 
Yes that's true although rentals can be a big time suck. Of course, I could just go back to using what I was shooting with before since I didn't sell any of it.

It would be really nice to have a duplicate body though. I currently bring a GH5 as a backup to everything. But that necessitates bringing at least 2 canon lenses to use with it, plus all the considerations of its lesser capabilities
 
Doug Jensen said:
... I don't know if it is true or not, but years ago I was told by someone who should know, that Sony, Canon, and Sony know exactly how many units of a certain model they will manufacture before they even go on sale
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It's probably true. For example, A7RII was just announced as "discontinued". After a six year run, being first announced in June, 2015. It was heavily discounted for the last year and a half or so. My assumption is that new bodies weren't being manufactured for last three years. Sony was just waiting until their inventory was finally exhausted. (I felt it was a great buy at $1,200)

Of course, sometimes their calculations are a tad off. I remember when GH-4 first came out. Some Panasonic executive admitted to being taken by surprise by the camera sales to such a point where he said, "We're adding a second line to make 5,000 units per month. The demand is twice of what we had projected".

And, eight years later, GH-4 bodies are still available as brand new; now going for $700 in the US. And Panasonic unlikely made any new GH-4 bodies since they had began manufacturing GH-5. Which was over four years ago.

This also explains their general product marketing of sliding older models down their product line after the replacement was already introduced. I recall C500 and 1D C DVXUser discussions on buying cooling gizmos for the cameras when the last batch was being sold in stores, years after the original release. This practice isn't for the automotive market. Usually the outgoing model is gone off the dealers lots before the new version is out. There are exceptions, naturally. The Corvette stores had a hard time closing out C7 because the rumors of C8 appeared a year prior to its official reveal. Poor GM. It's hard to hide a car, especially when it's going 120 MPH on Nordschleife.
 
I lost another purchase confirmation race for a used a7siii at b&h last night. maybe because I got tripped up by a disclaimer window asking for my approval for them not to ship until sept 30. that was a deviation from routine

I was almost glad I lost though because I'm feeling more love for the FX3 right now. I've had overheating shut downs on the a7siii on a few occasions, typically when I'm rolling 4k120fps b-roll for a while with wifi monitoring going. It only needs 10 seconds to cool down before I can roll again, and usually if I turn off the wifi monitor then the problem goes away. But it would be nice to have no problem in the first place and to feel confident that I'll never get interrupted by overheating.

I think my plan now is to just buy a new fx3 from b&h when they become available. I'm already on the wait list.

In the back of my mind, I'm thinking about the A7iv... but if it can roll 4k120, then I'm positive that it will have overheating problems. It probably won't be able to do it at all. Who knows what the 4k60 quality will be. And it will have worse low light and be less of a match for what I've got. It may even have worse autofocus since it's a lower-end model... But I could definitely save $1400 or more going with the a7iv... Assuming they actually announce it on the 10th...
 
There are other "wild" rumors too. A7SIIIa and so on.

Even FX-9 II.

Waiting until the NAB announcements to make a decision may not be a bad idea.
 
This shortage thing is a mess no doubt. In the end, everything (including our rates) will have to go up in price. I want to build a new PC around the soon to be released AMD Threadripper chip but I probably won't be able to get anything until early next year and I do not want to know the prices of all the parts. Sticky pricing is most likely going to be around for a long time.
 
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