How's this?

[Robert Sanders]

Sometimes putting things into perspective can be re-assuring.

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/attachment.php?attachmentid=766&d=1158654700

Surely it is only a matter of time till red get the ideal solution for cine and for run & gun use. They are working on it every day.

Michael

Thank you for posting that picture. That Panavision rig is exactly what I was thinking when everyone started kavetching about the form factor. LOL!

 

[filmmaker1977]

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/attachment.php?attachmentid=766&d=1158654700 [posted by mike]

poor guy.. do you see how that lady (or the guy with long hair.. it's difficult to get know..) solved the problem?.. eheh





edit
okay seeing his breast i'd say "his" not "her"

 

[Ranger]

Couple thoughts ...

Replace the rail handles with a flight controller type mechanism. Of course, the buttons would control various camera functions (focus, record, etc.).

Also, as part of the Red line-up, a Red stabilizer system and matte box would be great that doesn't require applying for a second mortgage.

 

[Sumfun]

Which button launches the missile?

 

[acoreasc]

yeah - before a take, instead of camera rolling you can say "I've got tone...firing"

 

[laguun]

most funny thing happened yesterday.

35mm camera operator which (as of principle) hates digital has been brutalized by his dop to use cinealta cams of ours on the actual shooting.

as a "NAY!" sayer he comes to our studio to pick up some additional gear, asks "so, you have been at IBC, whats about this sci-fi camof yours".. (we told him a lil bit about red).

i answer: "oh, we saw some footage, it was rather gorgeous"...

he replies, "yeah, read everything in the web about it, was a 3d animation for sure"... and leaves.

he was wearing (no joke)... a t-shirt....


saying....



(jim, that one is REALLY for you )

"oakley - thermonuclear protection".




p.s. couldn´t see if the sunglasses were by oakley.

 

[mike the beginner]

What if the battery pack/red drive bracket were to slot into the top of the camera body something like a grove in the body and the red rail just slid on and locked. No gap between body and battery/drive. Tripod heads just slide on to tripods and lock. Why not something similar to reduce centre of gravity. Just a thought?

Michael

 

[Greg Voevodsky]

How about showing Red on a tripod - fully loaded with lense and all the cables?
I love the almost fully rigged hand held, but lets see it in Cine mode!

 

[mikkowilson]

..eh eh .. and I'll be happy to volounteer my services to model the Red on a Steadicam .. just send over a proto and I'll send it back with some photos..

- Mikko

 

[KOVAROVA]

really has a military / weapon like feel. did you have that in mind?

 

[ludmux]

this is quite perfect - exactly how we discussed with several people at cinec. it must be a well organized camera, well balanced on the shoulder - and well balanced on a tripod. but please all dvx people do not forget - this is a camera cinematography style - not a dvx - so there is no need for focus and zoomremote on the camera - except a cmotion or alladin or a microforce, which would be mounted on the rods..
@red - it is very important, that the people can use their existing 35mm stuff - matteboxes, fluids, wireless focus etc.... this all must fit !

 

[taubkin]

I think the lens is a little too high from the camera base. That would make it hard to use it with some rail/follow focus system. Besides it's not very ergonomical to reach very high for focus. That's why shoulder mounted cameras, like the new arri and the aaton, have reentrances so they just "fit"over your shoulder, and the lens doesn't have to be so high. And if you put an ENG lens on it, see how high the operator arm must be to hold the camera by it's lens grip?

 

[andersh]

It seems to me that it would be easy to put the lens a little lower: Since the lens right now is placed in the upper part of the camera body, just flip it upside down. I don't know if that will give a heat problem. One way to lower the center of gravity would be to run a rod down and round the front of the shoulder and placing the disk and batteries under your shoulder, next to your elbow.

 

[acrochordon]

kitty

kitty

http://www.aaton.com/products/film/
"Like a cat on the shoulder."
(photo is from aaton website)

 

[donatello]

"Since the lens right now is placed in the upper part of the camera body, just flip it upside down"

is that flip the whole camera ( as in shoot upside down) or lower the lens mount ?

 

[andersh]

is that flip the whole camera ( as in shoot upside down) or lower the lens mount ?

I was thinking, that Jim could flip the whole camera body, which was just a different way to say, that the lens mount could be lowered (ie. there sould be room enough). Sorry if I am to unclear.

 

[Brook Willard]

Note that if it is too high, the upper rods could be used for mounting those accessories.

 

[WarrenS]

Hey Andrew, I met an Andrew M when he was doing a short gig in Medford, OR a year ago. I'm trying to figure out if you're the same M.

 

[Andrew M]

Unlikely. I have never been to Oregon. : )

 

[stokestack]

From that shot it looks like the viewfinder blocks access to the lens rings.