How's this?

I've missed this for a while, but now I'll jump in...

I'd love some focus/zoom/start-stop handle to appear on the grips om the rail someday...

You know, if you're gonna focus this thing with both your hands on the rail...
But it's probably there. I've just not seen it.

Cheers!

Gunleik
 
Hey Jim,

Pic looks cool. I would like to offer feedback, but I don't want to waste your time with stuff you already know.. That said I have a question:

Were you posting this pic just to show the scale with a lens and person using it? Or... Was there a specific change you wanted me/us to see and comment on?

Jay
 
Sa-weet. This thing really IS configurable. It looks like it will sit nicely on my tripod or jib. It even looks fairly balanced.
 
He could take his hands down and the camera stayed on his shoulder... perfectly balanced. These were posted just to give a taste of the incredible versatility of the system. We'll post a whole group in a week or so when the new body and rail/cage system is done. One thing you can't see is how light the system is.

Jim
 
Looks rather high and top heavy. Actors tend to be small and I am tall. Just being selfish.
The shoulder scoop is also rather deep which will produce a thunk (bump) in extreme pan ups or down or in cramped positions.
The camera looks a little overengineered and fussy but that is because it is a prototype I presume.
Besides these minor details it looks very good and quite practical. Keep up the good work.
It is such a pleasure to see someone trying to rationalise and rethink the camera instead of just tweaking traditional forms or adding "design".
By the way have you thought of a setup for the "rolleiflex" style of film-videomaking which works very well with the hdv, dv and betacam type cameras?
 
making me want one

making me want one

"Must - resist - placing - order." "Can - hold - out - till Halloween."
I really should save money for a condo instead of buying a camera. Damn you Jim, it is hard to keep my wallet closed.
A start/stop button where your thumbs go would be nice. This set up looks much better than the rail.
The Arri is named after the guy Arri. Will the Red camera have the name JIM etched on the side of it (kind of like HAL, except JIM)?
 
Is there any functional difference between the steel rods and the CF rods? Or were those merely the rods that you guys had handy for the shoot?
 
With the black finish and a matte box it's gonna look like a really professional peace of machinery!! It will definetly turn some heads!!!
 
I would say with any product, it's hard to make something that suits everyone's needs. But it seems to me that they are taking great care to make this system modular and configurable, to the extent that it should suit a lot of people's situations.

I love the idea of a camera that is not locked into a certain firmware or software as well. It seems like there will be updates to it as the company tweaks them in the future. I love that about my Sound Devices 744T audio recorder. They make tweaks to the firmware and often times, they are great additions to an already great product. And I love the build quality of that recorder as well. That's what really has me intrigued about this camera. It looks like the quality of the build itself will be very good.

Can't wait to see this thing come to life. Exciting times.

Steve
 
Hey Jim.

Both of these configs are kind of awkward. The battery is very elevated. You want a lowish profile for handheld and to maintain a low center of gravity. Batteries are heavy. And the battery cable... I see why the cable is there, and I see why the battery is not hanging directly off the rear (because of the display) but I don't like it. Also, cables snag.

What about placing the battery under the lcd display, basically hanging it more at the level of the shoulder pad?

Also, you definitely want a handle on top of the camera for carrying it, so consider that for this config also. This config doesnt' have that. Also how do you cradle the camera in a crouching position? Remember, handheld is not only shoulder-mounted...

I love to see the camera with a lens on though. It gives a much better impression.

Also, I wonder about the rods -- aren't they awfully low compared to the lens? You'd need some kind of bridge to mount a small mattebox or follow-focus on that, no?

--Rune
 
There are pictures on the Red site of configurations with the handle on top and the battery below or in the back. The pics on this thread show new possibilities, for example, if I was crammed in the back seat of a car for a shot I might be happy to be able to place the battery in such a way as to keep the camera short and compact.

I don't think RED's strength is going to be as a run 'n gun camera, but if you want it to be, it looks like you can take off everything and just cradle the body in your hands. Muy Con-FIG-UR-ABLE.
 
It looks like, if you have a black plastic body, it would look more like a ENG camera. Right now it looks like something Samus Aran might use, but that's good!
 
<There are pictures on the Red site of configurations with the handle on top and the battery below or in the back. The pics on this thread show new possibilities, for example, if I was crammed in the back seat of a car for a shot I might be happy to be able to place the battery in such a way as to keep the camera short and compact.>

Certainly. I can't find pictures of the battery pegged close to the camera body at the back, only on the extension rods. This is probably the handheld config I like the best: http://red.com/images/photo/10_b.jpg (but with two handles) -- seems like it would be really nicely balanced.

That render also shows the closer rods which can be used for mattebox, follow-focus, etc. They don't seem to be on the mockup/prototype in the photos.

-rune
 
Why so brilliant?

Why so brilliant?

tonacidigital said:
love it
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I dont understand why the camera body is brilliant. In a situation with strong back light, a reflex came direct to the face of the actor. Not that brilliant (the design)
 
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