at the park - a BROTHERS TUTTLE film

[jontuttle]

Thanks for the feedback.

Hi guys, well, let me first start off with the fact that my 10 year old daughter (who has watched all the shorts with me!) has chosen At The Park as her favorite. So there's one vote. .

You tell your daughter we are very thankful for her vote and that we are glad she liked the short.

I liked the score and the sound (yes, you can kind of hear the "room" in the ADR work, but it wasn't distracting).

Bugged me a bit too. First ADR attempt in the garage with packing blankets. You live you learn. That's what it is about. Next time it should rock.

I liked the lighting - shooting in natural light like that is a monster *****, which I know all too well.

Thanks. Shooting in the winter in a park covered in trees was a nightmare. Talk about starting to believe in a Sun God. He had it in for us for sure. But I think we got the one up on him.

The acting is fine, I think where you run into trouble is the characters, but that just takes some more practice, some more writing skills, that's all..

From the dialogue in your short we might just have to send our stuff your way so you can polish our turds up. Great stuff. Review coming shortly.

I kinda didn't buy the bum running off without trying to verbally defend himself more. In fact, I wonder if he wouldn't have offered to help look for Abby, based on his character.

I think we brought that up mid shoot but by that time it was too late. We had a bit more 'defense' in there but had to cut for time.

This'll piss you off, but it bugged me that the actress's hair kept falling in her face.

That is my fault. Someone said something and I said, "No way thats real. Thats what would happen. She's freaked out." When we watched the dailies I changed my mind. Oops.

The shot of the bum picking up the sweater is downright creepy and with different music would have been almost unbearable. The profile shot of the mom showing the photo to the guy sitting under the tree is great and the strings at that point are awesome as well.

Thanks. Two of my favorites as well.

The sequence where the mom is turning in place to look and can't see her daughter could have used, IMO, a reverse POV, something evoking her view and the fact that the girl is nowhere to be seen.

Hmmm. Very good point. That would have been great.

The finale is great, the actress and bum in the street, they're great, the blood is perfect, it all worked.

Thanks. I think our actress did a fantastic job. I would work with her again in a heartbeat.

 

[jontuttle]

This one is on my top list,
I crushed blacks in the picture works very well with the relationship between the characters. The cinematography is just plain beautiful. Great job.

Thank you very much.

You actors are also good... they put up a good performance. The costume, the set, the props it all made real... well orchestrated.

We spent a lot of time on the costumes and props. The Landscaping Truck was my favorite. My dads old Ford. We even had a decal made but it flashes by so fast you can't even see it.

The area where I recommend improvement is in the dialogues... for instance the mother was narrating how she felt... the writer could have indicated to the actor to show it. There is a popular phrase in screen writing, "show don't tell".

This is one of our faults. We are getting better but still a bit to go. Sometimes it seems hard in a short like this to not tell a few things, but you are right.

I liked this movie... I would like to see more of your work.

Thanks for the comments. I liked your short a lot and still need to stop by and leave a review.

 

[RomanJaquez]

By the way, how did you shoot the last scene with when he gets hit? I did not read all 25 pages... so I might have missed any info if you discussed it.

I liked it, it was believable

 

[jeremytuttle]

By the way, how did you shoot the last scene with when he gets hit? I did not read all 25 pages... so I might have missed any info if you discussed it.

I liked it, it was believable

Thanks for the comment. We think it looked pretty good. I have a slew of BTS photos of that day we have been keeping under wraps as not to give it away so I'll dig those up and discuss the shot in detail. Stay tuned.

 

[RomanJaquez]

Roger that!

 

[FatBird19]

btw, what park is that?

 

[jeremytuttle]

btw, what park is that?

Mostly Presido Park off of I8 (if you know San Diego it's kind of near Old Town). The final shots are at Allied Gardens Park (Mission Valley Area).

 

[Geoff_R]

Hey Jeremy,

I really liked a lot of the cinematography in this film. The helicopter shots were very cool especially! My favorite shot is the one where it's very silhouetted with the large tree on the left and the mother asking someone about her daughters whereabouts. I loved that shot! In general though, you had strong compositional choices, especially considering you've got multiple characters engaged in conversation/action at some points.

The sound design was really well done as well. That is another thing I was impressed with because I know it's hard to get good sound in exterior environments, especially a park!

Nice job, enjoyed your movie!

 

[jeremytuttle]

Hey Jeremy,

I really liked a lot of the cinematography in this film. The helicopter shots were very cool especially! My favorite shot is the one where it's very silhouetted with the large tree on the left and the mother asking someone about her daughters whereabouts. I loved that shot! In general though, you had strong compositional choices, especially considering you've got multiple characters engaged in conversation/action at some points.

Thanks Geoff, that means lot coming from you. The cinematography was a group effort. Seth, Jon, and I all would figure out the shoots. I'm a big fan of wide shots with something to one side of the frame. The shot you mentioned is one of my favs also.

The sound design was really well done as well. That is another thing I was impressed with because I know it's hard to get good sound in exterior environments, especially a park!

Nice job, enjoyed your movie!

The sound design is all Jon, he did a great job.

Thanks Geoff, I appreciate the comments very much.

 

[Jazz Dog]

Wow, this was really good. The wide shot where she shows the pic and the plane in the background was money. The creepy bum was great and the car crash was done well. The opposite of my car crash in my horrorfest entry which was a horror. My favorite part was the audio. I know how hard it is to get good audio outside in a public location and you guys did amazing. It did seem like the part in the beginning where the guy calls the girl was over-dubbed though (am I right?) I felt the tension rise as the film went on and the music seemed to go well. The only part that distracted me was when they just find out and are running as a sort of drums with brushes comes on and I was left thinking "what is that? is someone walking by the camera mic or something?" it took a few to figure out it was the soundtrack.
Amazing job! This is very high on my list at the moment.

 

[They Live]

Hey guys,

Just watched At the Park and I was really impressed. It reminded me a lot of Envision's short. But that's also one of the big problems I had with it. It was a little too predictable for my taste. I didn't for a second believe that the bum could've done anything to the girl. I know you tried to telegraph that possibility with him coming up to her in the shadows, all menacing in the frame, but it was over telegraphed. And the shot of the bum getting hit by the truck was very well done, I really want to learn how to do that stunt/effect. But again, saw it coming from a mile away. Just something to think about.

Other than that, I loved the setting, and the cinematography. I know you had trouble with the helicopter shots, but the ones you got you made work, in a big way. I think one of the best sequences of cuts I've seen in the whole fest was the pull out from the WS of Erica looking around to the helicopter shots of the park. Really effective, very well done. This film is very high on my list. You guys got talent.

Ben

 

[D_and_G]

Candy monster & the irresponsible Mom.

Standout shot – her asking the guy at the tree. Great composition.

Why didn’t the bum tell her she went to get candy? I don’t get it

Anywhoo, lose the score, IMO. I like the reversal of expectation in your screenplay but I kinda knew it was coming.

Good stuff. :beer:


:beer:

 

[ripupthehwy]

Very nice, one of my favorites. Reminded my of "where silence falls"

 

[jeremytuttle]

Hey guys,

Just watched At the Park and I was really impressed. It reminded me a lot of Envision's short. But that's also one of the big problems I had with it. It was a little too predictable for my taste. I didn't for a second believe that the bum could've done anything to the girl. I know you tried to telegraph that possibility with him coming up to her in the shadows, all menacing in the frame, but it was over telegraphed. And the shot of the bum getting hit by the truck was very well done, I really want to learn how to do that stunt/effect. But again, saw it coming from a mile away. Just something to think about.

Other than that, I loved the setting, and the cinematography. I know you had trouble with the helicopter shots, but the ones you got you made work, in a big way. I think one of the best sequences of cuts I've seen in the whole fest was the pull out from the WS of Erica looking around to the helicopter shots of the park. Really effective, very well done. This film is very high on my list. You guys got talent.

Ben

Thanks Ben, some great comments here. I have to ask did you see Envision's first or after ours. I have a feeling most people saw that one first, I don't blame you, I wanted to watch that one right away also, and if you did it kinda gives away what will happen. But, did you really see the Bum getting hit by a car a mile away? Or the shot before it happened? I don't think we really tried to hit people over the head with tricking them into thinking one way or the other, yes we had a few hinting shots but every movie constantly throws people for loops. We think it is interetsing to see how people take it. Some people will automatically know that not all homeless people are bad and they will see that this one is just trying to help... good for them. For those that don't maybe this movie will spark something in the back of their head that will make them think before the react to someone they assume is a terrible person.

Thanks for the compliments on the shots. Yeah, the heli shot worked out pretty good, maybe better then what we originally planned. I'm going to go into the truck hit a little more later, maybe tomorrow.

 

[jeremytuttle]

Candy monster & the irresponsible Mom.

Standout shot – her asking the guy at the tree. Great composition.

Why didn’t the bum tell her she went to get candy? I don’t get it

Anywhoo, lose the score, IMO. I like the reversal of expectation in your screenplay but I kinda knew it was coming.

Good stuff. :beer:


:beer:

Lol, candy monster, nice. The end fight scene needs work and I'll admit that right now. I think it needs a little more chaos with the bum trying to explain what happened but being constantly cut off by the Mom's yelling and franticness. Maybe in the ADR room we could polish this up and also tweak the editing.

I have to ask what you thought was wrong with the score?

Very nice, one of my favorites. Reminded my of "where silence falls"

Yes, just like every movie with a gun in it reminds me of the Matrix... kiddingrogar-Evil(DBG): . Actually I'm going to take it as a complement that you were reminded of Where Silence Falls, that was a great flick.

Thanks for the comments, I'm really surprised we have had as many good things said about our movie as we have, we are still pretty new to this and we didn't think people would like our movie all that much.
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[J.R. Hudson]

I too thought of WHERE SILENCE FALLS upon viewing this, but I think your film achieved the point with more flaire and drama; the acting, the audio, the score, the edit ... (Not a discredit to Norm's film, I thought it was a great effort)

This film is my favorite. This will be the one I VOTE for.

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[Blaine]

I can't really review this fairly having seen Where Silence Fall first and the fact that they are so similar story-wise. I don't really want to compare one with the other. I thought you did a decent job however I was somewhat put off by the ADR. You did a very good job on the sync but it sounded unnaturally hollow.

Even having seen the other movie first, I felt the ending was telegraphed. From the moment you put the little girl and the bum into the scene together I was pretty sure she would go missing and he'd be wrongly accused. As for the truck hitting him, I didn't anticipate that until I saw he was running toward the street.

Your truck hit and aftermath was the best of its type in the fest. I thought the images were well done.

I thought you guys did a good job on this. A little more work on the ADR would do a lot for this short.

 

[nitramlehcar]

I absolutely loved this one.
Not only was it visually captivating, it actually kept and held my attention. Having a dozen incredible shots means very little if the story is just plain boring, regardless of how innovative or original it may be. Yours was not boring. Kudos.

 

[jontuttle]

I too thought of WHERE SILENCE FALLS upon viewing this, but I think your film achieved the point with more flaire and drama; the acting, the audio, the score, the edit ... (Not a discredit to Norm's film, I thought it was a great effort)

This film is my favorite. This will be the one I VOTE for.

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Thanks John. That means so much to us. We are really glad that you liked our short. I said earlier that if only one person liked it I would be very happy. And I am indead happy

Even having seen the other movie first, I felt the ending was telegraphed. From the moment you put the little girl and the bum into the scene together I was pretty sure she would go missing and he'd be wrongly accused. As for the truck hitting him, I didn't anticipate that until I saw he was running toward the street.

You truck hit at aftermath was the best of its type in the fest. I thought the images were well done.

Thanks for the comments. It has been interesting to see the comparisons to WSF. The two are very similar. The truck hit was a blast to do from the filming
to the post to the audio and sound effects.

I absolutely loved this one.
Not only was it visually captivating, it actually kept and held my attention. Having a dozen incredible shots means very little if the story is just plain boring, regardless of how innovative or original it may be. Yours was not boring. Kudos. .

Thanks nitramlehcar. We really tried to have the story flow and not get bogged down. We also tried to pick shots that complimented the story. We did not want to put in a bunch of flashy shots for the sake of flashiness.

 

[Michael_Petro]

Did I review this film yet?? oh well..heres my review

Its people like the Bro Tuttle that make me hemorrhage trying to pick one film..

I so want a helicopter!