at the park - a BROTHERS TUTTLE film

jeremy / jon, I know you guys are cropping in QTpro - does it look ok to you? for me, it's cropping then stretching vertically. ugly. I'm either doing it wrong, or it just doesn't work.

oh well, live and learn, I guess.

gettin' excited . . . good luck!
 
preston said:
jeremy / jon, I know you guys are cropping in QTpro - does it look ok to you? for me, it's cropping then stretching vertically. ugly. I'm either doing it wrong, or it just doesn't work.

oh well, live and learn, I guess.

gettin' excited . . . good luck!

Good luck to you as well.

I see you got yours uploaded. Sorry I couldn't respond. I was frantically trying to figure out the whole mpeg2 thing. We figured that out but then realized that it was progressive and was playing screwed up on the DVD. So we had to add lower fields and start the process all over again. I tried to reverse engineer how we did it so I could post so insight but my brain was so fried last night at midnight I couldn't put two and two together.

We are uploaded and can now rest easy.
 
preston said:
jeremy / jon, I know you guys are cropping in QTpro - does it look ok to you? for me, it's cropping then stretching vertically. ugly. I'm either doing it wrong, or it just doesn't work.

oh well, live and learn, I guess.

gettin' excited . . . good luck!

Preston,

Actually we did a native 16:9 (in camera) but added black bars to crop to 2.20:1... why... well we wanted a wider look without getting to wide like 2.35:1. But we just left the black bars on it so it's kinda not exactly how we wanted it but it will work. I think Compressor (for mac) has a option were it will cut off the top and bottom without stretching it but I'm not sure...

but yep, live and learn.
 
Hey guys, been a long time since I've stopped by your thread. Sorry!

Really looking forward to your film!!!
 
jeremytuttle said:
But we just left the black bars on it so it's kinda not exactly how we wanted it but it will work. I think Compressor (for mac) has a option were it will cut off the top and bottom without stretching it but I'm not sure...

but yep, live and learn.

Hi Jeremy, check this out. In Quicktime Pro, open the clip you exported and choose Window --> Show Movie Properties. A panel opens, inside of which you select the video track and then click Visual Settings. In that panel, there is a Mask well. If you create a .gif in Photoshop or ImageReady that represents your black bars and save it out in black and white with transparency, you can place it as a mask and Quicktime will remove, instantly, the area of the mask in white. When you save it, there's no render time.
 
Theodore J Arabian said:
Hey guys, been a long time since I've stopped by your thread. Sorry!

Really looking forward to your film!!!

Thanks for stopping by Ted. We can't wait to check out your film too. It has been a crazy couple of weeks but now we can just relax and watch everyones film. Can't wait.
 
ignatius said:
Hi Jeremy, check this out. In Quicktime Pro, open the clip you exported and choose Window --> Show Movie Properties. A panel opens, inside of which you select the video track and then click Visual Settings. In that panel, there is a Mask well. If you create a .gif in Photoshop or ImageReady that represents your black bars and save it out in black and white with transparency, you can place it as a mask and Quicktime will remove, instantly, the area of the mask in white. When you save it, there's no render time.

Jeremy is away at a training class for work so let me thank you for the tip. We will give this a test. The suspense is killing me. I want to watch all these films.
 
jontuttle said:
Thanks for stopping by Ted. We can't wait to check out your film too. It has been a crazy couple of weeks but now we can just relax and watch everyones film. Can't wait.
I hear you. This is the fun part!!!

BRING ON THE FUN!!!!!!!!

I can't wait to see all of these films!
 
ignatius said:
Hi Jeremy, check this out. In Quicktime Pro, open the clip you exported and choose Window --> Show Movie Properties. A panel opens, inside of which you select the video track and then click Visual Settings. In that panel, there is a Mask well. If you create a .gif in Photoshop or ImageReady that represents your black bars and save it out in black and white with transparency, you can place it as a mask and Quicktime will remove, instantly, the area of the mask in white. When you save it, there's no render time.

Awesome tip, this will definitely come in handy in the future. The only thing I wonder about is whether this is as true a crop as encoding it as 16:9, 1.85, 2.35 or whatever. In other words, will it always display this way no matter what?
 
Finnian said:
Awesome tip, this will definitely come in handy in the future. The only thing I wonder about is whether this is as true a crop as encoding it as 16:9, 1.85, 2.35 or whatever. In other words, will it always display this way no matter what?

When you drop the gif in the well, it basically applies it as an alpha channel, but removes the masked pixels and creates a physically cropped playback window. When moving the file around, it carries the gif with it, so it should always be able to play it in compatible QT players. But if it works "no matter what", I really can't say with any confidence, sorry.
 
ignatius said:
When you drop the gif in the well, it basically applies it as an alpha channel, but removes the masked pixels and creates a physically cropped playback window. When moving the file around, it carries the gif with it, so it should always be able to play it in compatible QT players. But if it works "no matter what", I really can't say with any confidence, sorry.

Thanks for this info, it sounds pretty cool. As soon as I get back in town I'm gonna try this out... that and download 50 short movies. I'll probably try and make some kinda of tutorial for next Fest so people can have a better time at it then we did and I'll probably use it too just to remember how we did things.
 
It's almost here Brothers Tuttle. All our labors of love will soon shower over cyberspace in one massive orgasmic download. And in that moment, I will scream out the words, "FRANKEN-D2 !!!!!"

david jerome
 
UPDATE :: 02-03-06

AND SO IT BEGINS - IT IS READY TO DOWNLOAD. So go check it out:

DIRECT LINK
DRAMAFEST DOWNLOAD PAGE

Let us know what you think about our movie, good or bad. I admit I'm a little nervous, pre showing jitters I guess. I have a feeling that our movie is going to have mixed reviews. But I'm eager to hear what you guys think.

I'd like to thank everyone again for all the help in making this movie possible.

Now I'll leave you with a few my grabs I've been lagging on putting up.
ATP_Grab-Final01.jpg

ATP_Grab-Final02.jpg

ATP_Grab-Final03.jpg


WARNING: THE PAGE 22 ON MAY CONTAIN SPOILER INFORMATION (PLOT REVELATIONS, ETC). PLEASE WATCH THE MOVIE BEFORE READING PAST PAGE 22. THANKS.
 
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id like to say that overall i liked your film. it shows a lot of work, every scene popped with color and clarity. i dont know how you pulled off that shot from above the trees but that was cool. i also thought the shot you used to end the film was very well done. the street seemed to rustle with regret, nice work there! just about every shot looked very well thought out, from the soccer ball going into the woods to the mom stopping the jogger. ( nice touch, there too )

the acting was good, the girl was great, and mom was good too, especially when she realized her daughter was now missing. the boyfriend's acting was fine as was the "bum".


the story itself was okay, but to be fair i just saw when silence falls and the two stories are of the same type of theme.

the music was okay, maybe less music in the beginning might be better, maybe let the beginning of the story play out with some natural sounds from the park, to better match the amazing visuals you got, but thats just my taste.

you got a lot in there for six minutes too!
 
Thanks for the comments Hoz. We appreciate them. Ya, we just watched Where Silence Falls and my eyes almost popped out of my head. I can't believe the similarities. We might play with the music to soundfx ratio to see what we get. Thanks again.
 
I actually found it interesting that there was so much thematic similarities to Where Silence Falls. Really made me think about both films in interesting ways as I compared the storytelling. Great acting here Jeremy. I was a fan of your last film and I like this one even more. One question: there's a two-shot in the park where she holds up the fuscia sweater that reads to me as being green-screened. Can't imagine why you would key that shot and assume I am wrong. Could be the foreground lighting particularly on the male which is clearly separate from the background scene. Any comments? Great job and kudos to your lead actress.
 
Mark, ya it blows me away the similarities (great minds think a like maybe), I hope we don't get too over shadowed by Norms excellent movie.

No that wasn't a green screen shot. It's kinda funny, I think the way we lit some of actors with the combination of the DOF that dv gives made a few shots seem "keyed".

I will pass your comments on to our actress. She did a wonderful job and I hope to work with her on another project.

By the way... what last film are you talking about? This is our first Fest Entry.
 
Jeremy ... how funny. My notes somehow attributed one of my favorite HorrorFest gems to your team. I won't say which one to avoid further embarassment on my part but it was one of my favorites. Anyway, I appreciate that info regarding the shot. Pretty neat effect, in fact, because the actors really pop out. I'm really looking forward to seeing more stuff from Brothers Tuttle.
 
REVIEW: AT THE PARK

Wow, two of the same kinds of rocks in this fest. Though I'd have to say this one weighs a bit more.

It's amazing how Where Silence Falls and At the Park end on the same beat. Almost literally. But how is yours separated from Norms? Easy: You showed me the character that was going to be blamed in the beginning. I was introduced to ALL key players and didn't have one dumped on me at the last moment to bring a story together. I do like your version of the story, it seems as though it's on a slowly inclining path even though the pacing wants to be move quick.

Your lead is pretty much beat over the head with her own assumptions, and it works well. She remains the focus of the short, which is where I seem to get lost in a lot of these here fest shorts.

How on earth did ya do the aerial shot? I totally get what you were going after there, and I think it works to a degree.

I get lost in a bit of the framing. On example would've been when the guy first comes to meet with the mother, and they bend over to speak to the young girl but she's out of frame. On the very first watch I went "Wait where's the girl?" Also, the voices all sounded like they were inside instead of outside. I'm in headphones, so I heard it well.

Overall, I liked this one. It presented the conflict a little late in the game, and I felt like it could have been shortened all around through the writing process, but I think it works for what you're going for.

Don't worry about the fact that yours is similar to another. The presentation is still different.
 
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