GH4 Any new info on 3 axis gimbals for GH4 ?

Thanks for that, mdifilm - very interesting. I have not heard much about Moza, it looks quite interesting, but I've also seen videos on youtube showing serious problems with Moza (of course, I'm sure you can find such videos about all gimbals, lol!). The thing is, as you say, these gimbals all play in slightly different spaces - the DJI Ronin f.ex. is really for heavier cams, which the CAME 7800 doesn't do. A more direct comparison of a more equivalent gimbal that is quite popular, would be the Varavon Birdycam 2 - because if anyone is looking to buy a gimbal for a given camera range, they are more likely to look at direct competitors rather than gimbals that don't even belong in the same class as that would not be applicable to their camera range. Anyhow, good job, it was very thorough and interesting... and if one day you come across a Birdycam 2, it would be great if you did a comparison, because you're good at it!
 
We did look around our town to see if we can get a birdycam and nope, no dice, it was one of the gimbal I almost got before going with came-tv's (they were sold out). I do like their compactness and found out their customer support was good.

I'm curious, which problem were you talking about on youtube about the Moza? Prior of getting the Moza I actually googled the entire youtube and other than seeing those from the company and knowing the limitations, I haven't found any about their serious problems that you mentioned. (Even just searched, no serious problem video)

EDIT: After a bit of search, there's seem to be more review about Birdycam 2 than the Moza and there's more test footage all over. :)
 
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Here you go - for example this one:

Moza Problems

Again, I'm not saying Moza is bad - I'm sure all gimbals have their problems - but when there are serious, serious problems like illustrated in that link, I tend to be very careful in just buying.

Yes, there are plenty of Birdycam 2 reviews, but I'm asking about (1) direct comparisons with CAME-7800 (new) and Moza, and (2) for you to do it, because you are good at these comparisons - I liked your review (and also the big Moza review) and I think you have the ability to really bring out the important points.
 
OldCorpse said:
Here you go - for example this one:

Moza Problems

Again, I'm not saying Moza is bad - I'm sure all gimbals have their problems - but when there are serious, serious problems like illustrated in that link, I tend to be very careful in just buying.

Yes, there are plenty of Birdycam 2 reviews, but I'm asking about (1) direct comparisons with CAME-7800 (new) and Moza, and (2) for you to do it, because you are good at these comparisons - I liked your review (and also the big Moza review) and I think you have the ability to really bring out the important points.
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Is this the only video? Since it was dated like March 2015, it may have not being found earlier (I search Moza, Moza Gimble, Moza issue) and only when I did Moza Problems, this was the only one shown.

Anyway, the video is a bit misleading, the remote doesn't seem to turn on (with any led lights on) so it is probably not charged (from everywhere I've read prior of getting the moza), it needs up to 2 days of charging (so it was said in the indepth review), the calibration process is not when the gimbal is off (if it's off, there is no power going through, how can it receive information to get it calibrated)? So, he may have issue, but until he does it properly I wouldn't know or there may not be any issue at all and just human error.

As for me doing other reviews, you are welcome to order a birdycam and send it over for me to play with it and review :) it's not that I can get it easily here nor I have that much $ to keep buying gimbals (I don't own the Ronin, had to rent it).
 
freelanceposter said:
What about the Silk? I have been looking at this gimbal. It costs $2,000 yet it looks on about the same level as the Ronin.
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The results from the Silk look good, but there appear to be many differences between the Silk and the DJI Ronin-M...

- Silk camera weight capacity: 2 lbs ( Ronin-M: 8.5 lbs )

- Silk camera requires tools to balance. ( Ronin-M is tool-less )

- Ronin-M has remote Bluetooth control from the included 2nd person controller or the optional thumb-size controller. ( Silk doesn't appear to have this )

- Ronin-M has detachable cross-bar arms, so you can use the gimbal by holding just the center handle. ( Silk doesn't appear to support this )


I plan on pre-ordering the Ronin-M in a few weeks as it looks like the best bet in a $2,000 gimbal right now. If I didn't want to use larger cameras than my GH4, I would be tempted to buy the CAME Mini.
 
I will vouch for the Helix Jr. Although I am still in early testing and have yet to shoot an official project with it, early use is great. The hardware design is topnotch and honestly soooo... much easier to handle and use than the Movi and copycat style top down units. I will say that the Movi is probably still the smoothest because I think they have the most mature software and profiles - But the Helix hardware is much easier to work with, balance, set down with no stand and feel like it could take some major abuse without problems. Hard to understate the difference. I believe the Helix software will mature with a little use and time, but I guessed correctly DJI would release a smaller version and at a cheaper price and still decided to order a Helix Jr based on the design. For what it is worth.
 
I like the looks of the Ronin-m. Especially the fact that you do not need to calibrate the camera when it is loaded.

Yet I have spoken with customer service reps at both DJI as well as Xproheli, and I get a better gut feeling about dealing with people in Bend Oregon than the folks at DJI.

I guess some will prefer whatever gives them that warm and fuzzy feeling. For me, I think it is Silk (just my 2 cents).
 
On the Letus Helix Jr., can you do fast tool-less adjustments, or do you have to use keys wrenches, screwdrivers etc.?
 
The Helix Jr is pretty much totally tool-less. There are minor needs for a hex key for with additional weights for optimal centering in some cases, but not during normal minor adjustments like lens changes or even camera changes in most cases.
 
Rob, I debated it, but decided on the Helix or Helix Jr. Most of my work involves lots of international travel and the small compact and lightweight nature of the Jr made more sense. It was a little cheaper as well. They are very similar. The Helix is heavier by a little, but still lighter than most others. The tech hardware is the same. The nice thing though about the Helix Jr is that it will still take a heavier camera if I was ever in a need (but unlikely based on my work). So mostly it was the simple and compact size, no need for a stand to carry and keep up with. and how compact it folds. The only downside to me with the Jr does not work with the current 4th axis option for steadicam, but I am pondering a way to do this same concept with the Jr with a little rigging.
 
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