Unofficially compared. Interesting.
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Ryan Patrick O'Hara
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I'd say they are both suitable for making ransom videos... and that's about it. 
Anhar_Miah
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what?! are you kidding at around approx ~200 Pixles and web compressed anything will good, hook it up to 55" 1080P HD tv and to an A/B.
ugafan
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i know it won't look as good, but honestly how many people are going to be watching cell phone videos on a screen that big? :cheesy: i see people using it to take quick videos of the kids, sending clips to friends and family, or uploading to youtube. for those types of things it will be very good.
Blaine
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Not only that, how many people are asking people to post footage online so they can determine quality? :cheesy:
I would hope nobody is honestly counting on it to do anything other than personal videos.
Pookie
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It's not what you shoot with, it's how it's used.
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Jawa Ex Machina
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Give Hollywood ten years.
You'll have a big budget remake of The Blair Witch Project.
It will involve iPhone footage.
I'm not saying this is right or wrong, the only thing I'm saying is Mark My Words.
Ryan Patrick O'Hara
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Doc Bernard
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I was thinking the exact same thing.
Rick Meyer
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Yeah me too but that music video Pookie posted was very well done!
Well, I guess Hollywood should scrap all its Panaflexes, then.
Barry_Green
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Y'know, the temptation to do something with one of these new products is pretty strong. I was looking at the EVO 4G because it had HD 720p video at, supposedly, 24fps... not for general purposes, but because I wanted to try shooting something on it, basically just to see if I could get something good out of it.
Thing is, I sincerely doubt I would do that twice. Once you've explored the novelty of it, why keep working with equipment that's not designed to do the job you want?
So no, I doubt people will be throwing out their Panaflexes and replacing them with iPhones. But I can certainly understand the appeal of wanting to put the new toy through its paces! :thumbsup:
Ryan Patrick O'Hara
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^ Hence the rash of 5D/7D use on professional films. Big DP's just playing around.
Barry_Green
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Is there a "rash" of 5D/7D use on professional films? We've heard of a couple of instances, but as far as I know they certainly haven't replaced anybody's A-camera on a conventional feature film. What I've heard of is mainly them being used in specific circumstances where their A camera couldn't go; like helmet cams and plate cams and handheld shooting and tight-quarters shooting, things like that.
Anyway, I'm sure it started that way, DPs being interested in seeing what they could do with these little cameras, but it stuck around because the 5D, at least, has some serious advantages over film cameras, in that it is tiny and has massively wide angles with super-shallow DOF. And, frankly, lots of folks like the images it produces.
I think the iPhone is going to have a lot harder road to become an accepted/viable product on a feature film shoot, at least as the "A" camera...
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Ryan Patrick O'Hara
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Hahaha, of course... but I meant simply in relativity. Most here shoot HVX200s, EX-1's, and etc. So the use of an Iphone is a novelty. I'd say DP's like Shane Hulbut, Gale Tattersale and others who shoot Panavision cams and 35mm are experienting with the 7D for special situations and what not... in the same way as people at DVXuser are going to experiment with the Iphone and put it through it's paces.
I doubt anyone will use it as a b-camera, but then again the difference between 35mm film and DSLR video is probably the same or greater as Iphone and DSLR video... the fact is, because television and short films won't likely be projected, the difference is not as obvious.
Yeah, but that's quite different from what I was referring to. What I hope is that no one's out there thinking "yeah, this camera will be all I need!"
We've been using flip cams for in-car dashcams on network shows for some time now. Glue wide angle lenses directly to the body. Who knows what will happen with these consumer cameras?
Barry_Green
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Be careful, my friend... you're acting like you are just dead-set on becoming the new target for "the revolution"... :shocked:
As always, there's a distinction between what one "needs" and what one "wants". If you want to make a professional-looking film, it could be argued that all you "need" is an old 16mm film camera like a Filmo, and a radio shack tape recorder. Rodriguez did it with an Arri 16S, but "El Mariachi" could just as easily have been shot on a 1920's Filmo.
But as to why someone would want to do a project using only what they "need" is beyond me -- other than the novelty of it, why would you want to live that way? Heck, all you "need" to survive is potatoes and water. Who wants to live on potatoes and water?