Technicolor teams up with Canon for DSLR's

Comes across as a troubled genius, lots going on in my mind kinda nutty professor type - Month end for free. Full dynamic range? S-log wannabe? Excellent. I am stoked at this. Wish that the other issues could be dealt with first though he he he
 
*yawn*

Somebody wake me when Canon & Technicolor put all of these goodies into a proper Cine/Video camera.
Am I the only one who finds DSLR's vomitous and freakish looking?
 
I'm interested in how much banding and artifacts a corrected log curve will have, when it originated in an 8-bit space. Not only an 8-bit space, but a very very compressed, 4:2:0 space.

The engineer said they've been getting good results though, so I'm inclined to believe him. Although pay attention to how ridiculously flustered he got when the interviewer asked him about the compressions effects on shadow detail once adjusted. He stumbled for a solid minute or so :/
 
Paul V Doherty said:
*yawn*

Somebody wake me when Canon & Technicolor put all of these goodies into a proper Cine/Video camera.
Am I the only one who finds DSLR's vomitous and freakish looking?
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Yes, probably

In what way "Freakish"? Do you prefer rangefinders?

Or have you forgotten that these are first and foremost stills cameras? and for that purpose are pretty well designed.

Dave
 
maranfilms said:
so this is only for 5d, no 7d or t2i?
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great question.
crookedpathfilms.com posted a brochure Technicolor is handing out at NAB.
a little info from it:

Can it be used for all EOS cameras?

"Although the Technicolor CineStyle was designed and optimized for the Canon EOS-5D Mark II camera, the Technicolor CineStyle can be installed and used on any current Canon EOS DSLR camera"
 
Fohdeesha said:
I'm interested in how much banding and artifacts a corrected log curve will have, when it originated in an 8-bit space. Not only an 8-bit space, but a very very compressed, 4:2:0 space.

The engineer said they've been getting good results though, so I'm inclined to believe him. Although pay attention to how ridiculously flustered he got when the interviewer asked him about the compressions effects on shadow detail once adjusted. He stumbled for a solid minute or so :/
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I was thinking the same thing, 8-bit with a log gamma doesn't give enough steps in gradation per stop. Where as a linear gamma for 8-bit can work because you can expose correctly and put the bits where you need them.
Makes me wonder if its more of a imitation log gamma to work with an 8-bit codec than a full log curve that you would use for a higher bit depth.
 
i think the basic point is, at least it's not AS BAD. there are gonna be artifacts, and noise, and tons of other stuff regardless. but the curve they are putting on, A. lets you see what's actually there so maybe you have a change to throw a little more light in to eliminate noise.
B. gives them a fighting chance to match shots better, at least lifted blacks in the log can be crushed down, and your highlights are protected.

i don't expect this new curve/ picture profile to perform miracles with the camera, but I definitely think it can eliminate a great percentage of how hard to grade it is. especially if you are underexposed.
 
I'm very excited about this and see it as an excellent addition to my tool set. Hey it may not be perfect but I'll take anything I can get to make my workflow easier. :D
 
I suspect this profile is created to affect the knee rather than the pedestal of the curve and is also very likely pushing middle gray slightly lower. I think you will have to throw more light into the shadows as a result and this is where big productions have an advantage. I also think it is likely tweaked to cut better with certain filmstocks, with an eventual film out as an objective. I certainly don't see increased latitude, just a more accurately mapped curve and an extended knee.
 
They said its coming out on the 30th? Why on a Saturday. I mean I'm happy because I have a big shoot that day, hopefully that morning I can download it and try it out
 
daveswan said:
Yes, probably

In what way "Freakish"? Do you prefer rangefinders?

Or have you forgotten that these are first and foremost stills cameras? and for that purpose are pretty well designed.

Dave
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Still camera with colour management by one of the giants of the MOVIE industry??????
Give me a break - Canon is maintaining its usual M.O. - biding its time, waiting for the others to make their move, before announcing a proper large sensor video camera..... *yawn* *meh*
I'm bored now, thanks Canon
 
Paul V Doherty said:
Still camera with colour management by one of the giants of the MOVIE industry??????
Give me a break - Canon is maintaining its usual M.O. - biding its time, waiting for the others to make their move, before announcing a proper large sensor video camera..... *yawn* *meh*
I'm bored now, thanks Canon
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Today...I went to the movies and during the previews there was an ad for some sort of film contest. All the contestants were shooting Canon DLSRs. There's really no point to my post, except to say that I kind of agree with you here. Canon is really relying on their giant marketing machine to keep the hype alive rather than doing anything spectacular.
I do understand that these cameras are photo cameras first and Canon is really not obligated to make them shoot like an F3 or an AF, BUT if they keep advertising the "stunning" 1080 HD aspect of these cameras in TV ads, print ads, banners....maybe, for their sake they should spend some of that advertising dollar to actually make them shoot a bit closer to true HD, without all the moire/aliasing. Let me be clear though....I'm not saying these cameras aren't good, that they should do more than they do. All I'm saying is that the trains out of the station, Elvis has left the building....and if Canon wants to continue holding this truly remarkable momentum in the video world, they'd better be looking over their shoulder.
Ahhh nevermind....good advertising wins everytime! (I do believe Canon will do something special with the 5dMK3...but I'm in the minority)
 
IDk what you two ^^^ are talking about. The fact the Technicolor has changed the color codec from REC709 to LogC is a huge deal. It is the difference in a useable color space, all while increasing the dynamic range to the full potential of the sensor... I aplaudee Canon for this... and thank them greatly for doing it for free... like you said, Canon has no obligation to do anything for us, we already have purchased their product. Your already SOLD. Yet they still try, and they still push... to make you, me and everyone else as happy as they can without making their next products obsolete...
 
I was hoping this would lead to some sort of 35mm-sized sensor dedicated video camera/codec from Canon, but I am glad they are doing this in the meantime. Free codec upgrade? I'll take it.
 
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