T2i Shorting Footage

brandondull

brandondull

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When I log & transfer footage into final cut pro - it seems when I drag it into the timeline my footage is short in time then the real time I film it at. Any help?
 
First, pretend like we can't see your editing system from where we are. Which version of FCP? What settings are you using? Which Mac are you using? Which OS? What are your sequence settings?
 
Also are you using the Canon plugin. If so that is the culprit.

There's a great thread somewhere about the problems with that plugin, I really like it but after someone pointed out that it doesn't faithfully transfer the clip I switched back to MPEG StreamClip. Not as convenient but I can trust it.
 
C2V said:
First, pretend like we can't see your editing system from where we are. Which version of FCP? What settings are you using? Which Mac are you using? Which OS? What are your sequence settings?
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mac - final cut pro 7 just normal log and transfer
 
brandondull said:
mac - final cut pro 7 just normal log and transfer
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That's a start. What about the other information?

OS version?
Model of Mac? (including processor)
Sequence settings?

Also, are you doing your L&T straight from the card, or from a disk image of the card?

The other thing that comes to mind is that FCP cannot properly L&T, if I'm not mistaken, from a Canon EOS card (or disk image thereof) without the EOS plug-in. Furthermore, the EOS plug-in doesn't yet (technically) support the T2i. There is a hack for the plug-in to work with the T2i, but the plug-in itself won't work in Leopard, only in Snow Leopard.

Your best bet is to use Compressor or MPEG StreamClip to convert the files first, then simply import them into FCP.
 
C2V said:
That's a start. What about the other information?

OS version?
Model of Mac? (including processor)
Sequence settings?

Also, are you doing your L&T straight from the card, or from a disk image of the card?

The other thing that comes to mind is that FCP cannot properly L&T, if I'm not mistaken, from a Canon EOS card (or disk image thereof) without the EOS plug-in. Furthermore, the EOS plug-in doesn't yet (technically) support the T2i. There is a hack for the plug-in to work with the T2i, but the plug-in itself won't work in Leopard, only in Snow Leopard.

Your best bet is to use Compressor or MPEG StreamClip to convert the files first, then simply import them into FCP.
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imac 27 inch newest version of everything. Sequence settings 1080 HD
 
brandondull said:
imac 27 inch newest version of everything. Sequence settings 1080 HD
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Okaaay... still doesn't answer all the questions. Really trying to help you here, and I'm not sure why it's so hard to provide simple, technical details. Believe it or not, this stuff really can matter in troubleshooting.

1) Which 1080p? FCP has several flavors. And are you sure that your L&T setting has the same frame rate as the source footage?

2) Which 27" iMac? Core 2 Duo? i3? i5? i7? And which processor speed?

3) Which version of QuickTime? Are you using the one that FCS3 installed, or have you updated since then?

4) Are you using the EOS-E1 plug-in, or are you just attempting a bare L&T from the SD card?

5) If you're using the EOS-E1 plug-in, have you completed the hack for T2i compatibility?

These are not rhetorical questions. Help us help you.
 
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C2V said:
Okaaay... still doesn't answer all the questions. Really trying to help you here, and I'm not sure why it's so hard to provide simple, technical details. Believe it or not, this stuff really can matter in troubleshooting.

1) Which 1080p? FCP has several flavors. And are you sure that your L&T setting has the same frame rate as the source footage?

2) Which 27" iMac? Core 2 Duo? i3? i5? i7? And which processor speed?

3) Which version of QuickTime? Are you using the one that FCS3 installed, or have you updated since then?

4) Are you using the EOS-E1 plug-in, or are you just attempting a bare L&T from the SD card?

5) If you're using the EOS-E1 plug-in, have you completed the hack for T2i compatibility?

These are not rhetorical questions. Help us help you.
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iMac i7. 4GB Ram. I did the Canon T2i hack. My computer is fine it's the hack that is messing up my footage & I don't know why? It messed up my whole clients project now & I already deleted the footage off the scan disk card.
 
brandondull said:
iMac i7. 4GB Ram. I did the Canon T2i hack. My computer is fine it's the hack that is messing up my footage & I don't know why? It messed up my whole clients project now & I already deleted the footage off the scan disk card.
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Your computer may be fine, but it's how all the versions of hardware and software may interact that can trip you up. That's why this information is important. As for the hack, did you add a key for the T2i or for the 550D? It can make a difference.

So you're saying you don't have any of the source footage from the camera now? All you have is what's been converted improperly? Not much you can do at this point. Never, ever, ever delete your source footage without a direct backup and without making sure that your converted files are in good shape. This is a reality of working in the tapeless world.

The best thing to do is to make a disk image of the SD card. Use the disk image for your L&T, and also for your archive. That way, you can always go back to the source (and it takes less storage space).

If the EOS-E1 plug-in is what's not working properly, you may for your next project want to use Compressor to convert before you start in FCP.
 
I don't understand why the canon hack is failing on me? it used to work perfectly! This time i kept the footage but it happened again.
 
brandondull said:
I don't understand why the canon hack is failing on me? it used to work perfectly! This time i kept the footage but it happened again.
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Read around the forum. There are posts of folks having great experiences with the plug-in, and folks having terrible experiences. Go figure.

The only other thing I can think of is to try and trash FCP's prefs; see if that convinces FCP to play nice with the EOS-E1 again. Often, if something that used to work with FCP suddenly does not with no apparent explanation, trashing prefs is the first thing to try.
 
C2V said:
Read around the forum. There are posts of folks having great experiences with the plug-in, and folks having terrible experiences. Go figure.

The only other thing I can think of is to try and trash FCP's prefs; see if that convinces FCP to play nice with the EOS-E1 again. Often, if something that used to work with FCP suddenly does not with no apparent explanation, trashing prefs is the first thing to try.
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I HAVE TRIED ALL THIS. I tried opening in a new project & same project as well. Something is wrong with the hack. I don't have the time to read around the forum because I am on a deadline. Thats why I figured I could ask a professional for a quick fix.
 
brandondull said:
I HAVE TRIED ALL THIS. I tried opening in a new project & same project as well. Something is wrong with the hack. I don't have the time to read around the forum because I am on a deadline. Thats why I figured I could ask a professional for a quick fix.
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Take a deep breath. One, I was not aware that you'd tried trashing prefs as you never mentioned it. You asked for ideas, I gave you some ideas. Sorry they didn't work. Two, the reality is that the hack is just that: a hack that is not actually supported by Canon or by Apple. As such, YMMV, and it's obvious from several reports that sometimes it works and sometimes it does not. It will remain that way until Canon officially provides T2i support for the plug-in.

Now, throughout this thread, I have tried to help. And it seems that I'm getting the flack here for not having the miraculous solution right off the bat. I understand the frustration of being on a tight deadline and in a technological bind, but projecting that onto the forum isn't going to get an answer. This is also not a problem with a one-size-fits-all solution that we can throw out there without any thought.

One other person has jumped in, and also mentioned that the plug-in is unstable for T2i use. Both of us have suggested using Compressor or MPEG StreamClip, which will get you on your way. Perhaps that's not as efficient, but at least it's stable.
 
C2V said:
Take a deep breath. One, I was not aware that you'd tried trashing prefs as you never mentioned it. You asked for ideas, I gave you some ideas. Sorry they didn't work. Two, the reality is that the hack is just that: a hack that is not actually supported by Canon or by Apple. As such, YMMV, and it's obvious from several reports that sometimes it works and sometimes it does not. It will remain that way until Canon officially provides T2i support for the plug-in.

Now, throughout this thread, I have tried to help. And it seems that I'm getting the flack here for not having the golden solution right off the bat. I understand the frustration of being on a tight deadline and in a technological bind, but projecting that onto the forum isn't going to get an answer. This is also not a problem with a one-size-fits-all solution that we can throw out there without any thought.

One other person has jumped in, and also mentioned that the plug-in is unstable for T2i use. Both of us have suggested using Compressor or MPEG StreamClip, which will get you on your way. Perhaps that's not as efficient, but at least it's stable.
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sorry for coming off the wrong way I was replying on my iPhone (now I am on my iMac responding). lol. Will canon ever update it because they are releasing cameras left & right. I feel like they will forget about the T2i. I like compressor I did not like MPEG StreamClip but when I import my footage in compressor its freezing from the things I shot today. Should I reverse the hack or just leave it be?
 
brandondull said:
sorry for coming off the wrong way I was replying on my iPhone (now I am on my iMac responding). lol. Will canon ever update it because they are releasing cameras left & right. I feel like they will forget about the T2i. I like compressor I did not like MPEG StreamClip but when I import my footage in compressor its freezing from the things I shot today. Should I reverse the hack or just leave it be?
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Use Compressor as a standalone to convert your clips, then launch FCP and import them. I do this with my T2i footage and have no issues. I have found that using Compressor within FCP to do anything is clunky, buggy, and not much fun.

As for Canon updating the plug-in to support the T2i, that's kind of the burning question right now for all of us using the T2i. I wish I could say "yes," but instead I have to wonder about it as you do. No need to reverse the hack, unless you are working with the 7D and/or 5DmkII and having the same issues. Otherwise, just ignore that the plug-in is even there.
 
C2V said:
Use Compressor as a standalone to convert, then launch FCP and import them. I do this with my T2i footage and have no issues. I have found that using Compressor within FCP to do anything is clunky, buggy, and not much fun.

As for Canon updating the plug-in to support the T2i, that's kind of the burning question right now for all of us using the T2i. I wish I could say "yes," but instead I have to wonder about it as you do. No need to reverse the hack, unless you are working with the 7D and/or 5DmkII and having the same issues. Otherwise, just ignore that the plug-in is even there.
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okay cool. thanks. I am just using the T2i with an HVX200a. I guess I am going to try the compressor again, hopefully it does not freeze again. lol.
 
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