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The only problem for R3 video is you're entering bad price and bulk territory. You start to compete with proper video cameras on price and you also lose the small form factor that can be advantageous for single-grip gimbals and tight spaces. But I'm sure the IQ of its internal RAW video will be phenomenal and probably not overheat. Unlimited 6K RAW internal recording for $5-6K...
 
Sorry, that might have been old news and wrong...I see the specs list includes internal RAW on CR.

Obviously not confirmed, but still. (Haven't checked them in a while.)
 
Canon has a bit of a lineup decision to make. If they price R3 above R5 - as the name suggests - they're going to have to throw in a bunch of video features a la 1D XIII. But if they price it it too closely to R5, they'll be splitting the sales for both. And, if they price it closer to $5,000, they're going to have to justify that decision by ... something. So, whatever the secret sauce is, it better be worth it.
 
Since this is the year of recycling cameras (I think my count is up to 8 now...8 different cameras that have been recycled), I still think they will price this one slightly above R5 below $5K and use this one as the recycled, split-sale version because there simply is no room to go any higher with the R1 landing in the $6K-$7K range.

Could they really go higher than $7K for a FF stills camera?
 
Also the resolution keeps it from directly competing with R5. If you're a real sports shooter or journalist, you probably don't care that it's only 24MP. But everyone else will
 
I guess I'm wondering who'd really consider buying a 24MP camera for $5K+ with the R1 around the corner for a bit more.

And not many video people because of what you actually said above...you start to get into real video camera territory, or just happy enough with R5, a7SIII, etc. etc.
 
ahalpert said:
Also the resolution keeps it from directly competing with R5. If you're a real sports shooter or journalist, you probably don't care that it's only 24MP. But everyone else will
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I posted the above without seeing this - but, yeah, I guess I still don't see even these people upgrading. (We had this conversation the other day.)
 
Maybe the R3 has a faster burst rate or faster electronic shutter than the R1. Or maybe people who just aren't aware of the R1 rumors
 
I'm not a photographer, but from some of the comments I see on CR, I feel like even people who were/are okay with lower MPs kind of want higher ones now for everything.
 
Sure but I'm just saying, that's a GAS crowd. A lot of interviews I read with photojournalists make it seem like they have no idea about rumors. And the facets they focus on are more like how hard of a knock can my camera take and still keep chugging. I remember seeing a post about a nature shooter using a Nikon in a swamp. It got so dirty, he was rinsing it off with swamp water. No problems. Lol
 
Maybe Bassman is correct. Maybe 24 MPX is just a center-crop for the higher FPS. The argument against it is the notoriously low resolution and high price tag of the 1D X series. Still, it seems low for 2021 and beyond.

As to $6,000 territory, it's currently occupied by the 102 MPX medium format Fuji. And an 8K/50 MPX A1 (at $6,500). If Canon wants to climb there too, it'll need both the high pixel count and 8K video because Sony could easily made a counter move with a high res A7RV on just photo or, alternately, add the high quality 4K to it while keeping the same res and the same price.

I'm still of the belief that the real tussle will be between A7IV and EOS R II (presumed model numbers) around $2,000. That's the meat of the market and it effects everyone both below and above. A7IV is supposed to be announced in September and EOS R is a bit long in the tooth itself, being essentially a rebadged 5D MKIII in an RF mount.

PS. Yesterday, Sony released a "vlogger" APS-C ZV-E10 - 24 MPX, 8-bit 100 Mbps XAVC, flip screen at $700. Maybe it's the end of the AXXXX line. Maybe, from now on, APS-C is going to be for the uncouth, sniveling poseurs exclusively. For its features, it's an aggressive move.
 
R is a rebadged 5D Mark IV (at least as far as video is concerned with the same 4K crop and MJPEG).
 
DLD said:
Yesterday, Sony released a "vlogger" APS-C ZV-E10 - 24 MPX, 8-bit 100 Mbps XAVC, flip screen at $700. Maybe it's the end of the AXXXX line. Maybe, from now on, APS-C is going to be for the uncouth, sniveling poseurs exclusively. For its features, it's an aggressive move.
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The reviews for ZV-E10 are everywhere. They're brief, since it's basically a Sony 6XXX 4K model. The AF is great. The codec is not so great. But it does have Log. And it's $700 (or $800 with a 16-50mm pancake kit lens).
 
Sony is the best at recycling cameras...they have literally 9 models of the same camera with a few tweaks but the same video quality since 2016.

It's amazing to see and learn from.
 
Paulie maght've moved slow, but it was only because Paulie didn't have to move for anybody.
 
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