Red Scarlet footage anyone?

I remember when many of the same arguments against red, were the same ones for HD:

-Hard Drive Space and the Cost of Archiving
-Hidden Costs in Reusable Flash Media
-Computing Power for Playback
-Low Light Sensitivity
-up rez 720p benefits vs true 1080p and the resolution arguments
-Who needs HD?

That is because they are all valid arguments. They applied then, and they apply now.


For me, I was disappointed when I first saw HD, and felt it was a half-ass upgrade from SD. Twice the resolution is not quite twice the perceived resolution. 4K or 5K, on the other hand, would have been a happy upgrade. Don't get me wrong, HD is an improvement over SD, and I like to tell myself that it is a necessary evil to pay for future technological advancements in digital imaging.

But HD has only been somewhat enjoyable in the last 2yrs. Prior to that, there were still many people who didn't have HD, or computers that can playback compressed HD. Even today, I know few people that have and use blue ray. Also, with the trend of people owning laptops, and not desktops, they have 900p screens at best, and more likely have 800p. Cable television is a lackluster visual experience, and internet compression makes anything over 720p almost irrelevant. Most internet content is watched at below 720p.

Things are getting better. But we were introduced to HD as a beta, and started paying into it, without it actually being fully developed or feasible. Growing pains. HD seemed like a lot of trouble and expense for not a lot of benefit. Invented and implemented in Japan in the 90's. One of the reasons it was not introduced sooner to America, was bandwidth.. yay, now we have worked around that problem just in time for the death of television!!!

Sony introduced the first HDV codec camera in 2004 for prosumers. (What a nasty image that was! - made me miss the murky yet smooth look of SD on CRT sets.)

By the time HD actually starts fulfilling its potential, 4K will be completely feasible.
 
Agreed (w/ James0B57). I am not trying to detract anyone from getting a RED, but if you are going to jump onto the Scarlet ship, know you are getting into. There will be growing pains as technology catches up with the camera. On one hand it is exciting to jump on the bleeding edge, on the other be prepared for a bumpy ride. Know the Scarlet is just a tool, one that will be caught up with (for less money) in 1-3 years.

I am not Scarlet bashing, but being a realist. I put down money for mine a week after the announcement, and I am excited about it. It was the best camera to fit my needs. Figure out what your needs are and see if the Scarlet fits them before purchasing.
 
Rather amusing to hear people so worried about others spending too much money for a camera they might not need. Isn't this the buyer's issue and not yours? They can figure out on their own if they can afford it or not and what other equipment they might need. Please let us get back to some talk on footage or please create a new thread about your worries.

Have a nice day!

Simon
 
I think this is why we're not seeing much footage from the Scarlet yet...

(From RedUser.net)
Chase M. Wrenn said:
Didn't want to hijack anybody else's thread, so here's what just came in today!!!

Super stoked, just need the LCD to start using it...can't wait.
 
For straight edits, but anything beyond that you are going to need a pretty good computer. Plus hard drive space. Lets not kid ourselves or others. Owning a RED is not cheap compared to a non-professional camera.

I agree with your conclusion, pro cameras cost more. But the edit part...no. I edit R1 files on my 2011 MBP and a custom built PC (Spent less than $1000 on it, not counting the Adobe suite). You don't need to spend a ton of money or have a super high spec'd box to cut Red files, not any more.
 
The first time I saw a Red screen shot, I was in China, and the download speed was so slow, it took a couple minutes for the image to completely come in. Having to wait so long, just added to the whole feeling of "4k!", haha...

...Now I can download Red CineX, and the raw screen grab, install RedcineX on a fresh new MBP, launch it and start working with the file and export it - all in less time.
 
Rather amusing to hear people so worried about others spending too much money for a camera they might not need. Isn't this the buyer's issue and not yours?

x100000000000

This is exactly what happened when phillip bloom bought his epic.

We were all hobbyists before we got into any profession with cameras, and I would gladly buy an epic and shoot my personal projects knowing it's never going to pay itself back.
 
Footage is starting to trinkle in. (It must be all the long render time, I kid, I kid.) Pretty soon everyone will be sick of all the new footage.

Here is some more footage roaming the net. B&W 3k, 48 fps, noise added in post.

http://vimeo.com/33564868
 
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Tonaci - Junior member he he he. Welcome. Love your work - Vietnam is blessed to have a guy like you. Saw your wedding with the epics. Very good work. Also read your blog about reliability of RED cams. Brings a bit of perspective after the recent days of specualtion about that issue. Happy filming and hope to see more of your work soon.
 
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