Yes, this was my problem! thanks
Odyssey7Q February 2014 Firmware Update
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Yes, this was my problem! thanks
Clermond
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imho either you go the Adobe AE / ACR route or the Resolve way. I don't see any benefit in using both.
You can import your DNGs as an image sequence in AE, grade them and render a edit friendly codec to your NLE
Native DNG support for Premiere is announced to be ready quite soon, this could be interesting when available.
AE is a diva and quite slow in rendering. I prefer Resolve over AE. In v10 you have basic editing functions.
I tried to do a rough edit in Resolve and it worked astonishingly well. Render to ProRes and export XML,
import into your NLE and roundtrip back for final polish to Resolve if necessary.
You can import your DNGs as an image sequence in AE, grade them and render a edit friendly codec to your NLE
Native DNG support for Premiere is announced to be ready quite soon, this could be interesting when available.
AE is a diva and quite slow in rendering. I prefer Resolve over AE. In v10 you have basic editing functions.
I tried to do a rough edit in Resolve and it worked astonishingly well. Render to ProRes and export XML,
import into your NLE and roundtrip back for final polish to Resolve if necessary.
If you've got a FS700 its a no brainer.
dmitrizigany
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A no-brainer and a €3500 I don't have
I've shot some quick tests this morning with ITU709. Recording 4:2:2 to Prores HD and also recording the same image to 4K2HD. For the Picture Profile in 4:2:2 to Prores HD, I have set everything to middle or zero. (colour mode ITU709 matrix level 8) Basicially at a factory level.
The images that the 4K2HD records are much more contrastly and saturated. The blacks are crushed by comparison. Personally I find this too extreme.
The images are also ofcourse way sharper.
As you can't adjust the PP's of the RAW signal, I'm wondering if there will be any tweeks to the image. I would love to have the option of something akin to the Cine 3 or 4 profiles. They appear to be a flatter image with more DR.
Thanks.
The images that the 4K2HD records are much more contrastly and saturated. The blacks are crushed by comparison. Personally I find this too extreme.
The images are also ofcourse way sharper.
As you can't adjust the PP's of the RAW signal, I'm wondering if there will be any tweeks to the image. I would love to have the option of something akin to the Cine 3 or 4 profiles. They appear to be a flatter image with more DR.
Thanks.
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Mitch Gross
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Anything is possible, but we have to see how fast we can properlty encode and maintain both data rate and image integrity. 120fps is very fast. We have 30fps working now with the plan to soon get to 60p. After that it will be a battery of tests to see how much faster we can go.
Mitch Gross
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We are looking into these things.
Mitch Gross
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Look in the folder that downloaded with your new firmware. There is a document called the FS700 Quick Start guide. Within it you with also find the information about the free utility program we created to address this.
BTW, for those who downloaded earlier on yesterday, we added the complete new Odyssey Manual to the download. Lots of additional information in there, including some hidden little functions you likely know nothing about!
These are two extremely usable modes - I'll be switching between them alot, according to if i know who is going to edit it or if its unknown - thank you for that!
And for everyone still doubting - I've so far only been playing around the prores, and folks who havnt seen it yet you simply have to see it for yourself!!: There is a huge difference between HD and THIS - supersharp hd derived from 4k. wow just wow!
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Kyron
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Wow, can't believe how much this thread has exploded in 24 hours!
I see the record time capacities has been updated in the manual and noticed both flavours of prores record the same amount of minutes. My question is what is the point of one over the other? I mean, if 4ktohd is in there, what's the point of 4:2:2 to hd? I'm not sure why you would use one over the other I guess.
I see the record time capacities has been updated in the manual and noticed both flavours of prores record the same amount of minutes. My question is what is the point of one over the other? I mean, if 4ktohd is in there, what's the point of 4:2:2 to hd? I'm not sure why you would use one over the other I guess.
Chris Johnston
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How did you do that? (slog and 709 at the same time?)
444 12bit HD prores has top priority in my book. Thing are looking stunning already tho!!
Sounds good. But how about going the route of having the camera buffer its 4 seconds(or8 sec in 2k) and then recording that to prores 25 (or something) I'm sure people could deal with having to trigger the 7q manualy. Just putting it out there - not sure if it makes any sense technically. But if you already have a shoot where you do prores - it might be because of storage concerns (and that the image downscaled from 4k looks damn fine) - and so you'd be hesitant to switch to 4kraw or 2kraw modes for slowmo - and see your hd space go bye bye - along with the ease of post workflow. just thinking out loud here.
timmytimetravel
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Is 422 to hd there as general prores for other cams that don't have 4k raw? Eg you use that for normal prores recording?
Am I missing something? There wasnt a "Quick Start Guide" in the new firmware folder that I downloaded. There was in the original firmware folder but not the new one. I see it reference Clip Merger, however I thought that was for joining files that span 2 SSD drives.
Was that an issue with the 7Q? I thought it was Slog2 not letting the shadows fall below about 20IRE.
Stuart Keasley
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The 7q isn't a dedicated FS700 solution.....