MAC OS on PC hardware (not the illegal hackintosh).

jivhg wrote:Is EFiX legal in the United Nations?

IE. USA, BRITIAN, Canada, Poland, etc.
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Hello, and thanks for rising a good question.

In short, yes.

EFI-X uses proprietary patented code and hardware to expand your computer's capabilities.

Amongst these capabilities there is the possibility to install a legal, genuine copy of all the best operating systems on the market and get full potential out of them.

All this is done in respect of the unique rights that certain hardware producers detain.

We will take straight to court whoever sells our modules installed in computers that disrespects the aforementioned rights.

And moreover, we direct our product to a specific market niche of computer enthusiasts, experts, professionals with special hardware configurations, gamers, overclockers. We do not sell the "IT Panacea" that will enable people to "have everything"...

Consumism is already gnawing at our world and our consciences too much. We sell a good, intelligent product that will help at least our small target of people to realise their own dreams in the best way, and mostly, in a legal way.

We are far, very far, from hurting or challenging any business, especially that of some company that we love and respect, and helped us to realise all of our dreams so far.

I hope this clears pretty much all the aspects of your questions!

Efix team
 
bigbossbmb said:
it's still a violation of the Mac OS X EULA
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Thanks for pointing that out. I thought I was the only one around here that actually reads those things (EULAs)!

I still think it would be a good business move for Apple to allow Mac OS to be installed on non-Mac hardware (and probably a good way for them to avoid an anti-trust suit if they ever get more market share). On the other hand, the more evil things Apple does, the easier it is for me to promote GNU/Linux, so...
 
EULA violations are interesting. There are issues of anti trust and fair practices involved here.

But until the EULA is determined to be invalid or illegal, it is still against the EULA to do what the company provides a means to do
 
I suspect the folks from EFI-X will not be sued until the Psystar people settle their case with Apple for similar violations of the EULA which makes it crystal clear this is a violation, regardless of how they want to market it. And then the hammer will be put down hard on these and all other would-be 'clone' companies. Not a good potential investment opportunity these start-ups. :beer:

Noah
 
Okay.. how is it a problem for a company to bind the users not to load the sofware on offbrand hardware?? The iPhone also binds user to agree not to use any carrier other than AT&T. No big deal. Consumers don't HAVE to buy an Apple computer. Consumers don't NEED any computer. I don't take issue with the expectation that I won't load OSX on non-OSX gear. If Microsoft made computers, I'd have no problem with that either. Microsoft doesn't make computers. Microsoft OS's run on a much wider array of hardware. Each company has pros and cons in their repective models.


What it all comes down to in the end is enforcement.

What can Apple expect as a consequence to the end user who willfully breaks their EULA?

What can Apple expect as a consequence to the person who not only breaks the EULA, but then profits directly from result? If I buy a new car...remove the logos and put my own on there and then resell it as my own, can I expect the manufacturer to be angry? Derivative use.
 
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I would love to be able to (legally) run OSX on my self built PC. I have started to really like Leopard (I'm from a windows background) but paying $2800 for the Mac equivalent of my PC's ($900) horsepower is ludicrous.
 
William_Robinette said:
but paying $2800 for the Mac equivalent of my PC's ($900) horsepower is ludicrous.
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That is such flame bait it's not even funny.

I lean towards Ming's way of thinking. Apple is essentially giving away their OS with every computer. Now after the Intel transition, the customer can choose any OS to load onto the system so I don't see how anyone can complain.
 
The EULA doesn´t have any meaning in Germany so I could run it legal.
On the other hand, I spend 98% of my time in applications.
So what difference would it make for me to run - let´s say - Photoshop under MAC OS?

Frank
 
Ming said:
Okay.. how is it a problem for a company to bind the users not to load the sofware on offbrand hardware?? The iPhone also binds user to agree not to use any carrier other than AT&T. No big deal. Consumers don't HAVE to buy an Apple computer. Consumers don't NEED any computer. I don't take issue with the expectation that I won't load OSX on non-OSX gear. If Microsoft made computers, I'd have no problem with that either. Microsoft doesn't make computers. Microsoft OS's run on a much wider array of hardware. Each company has pros and cons in their repective models.


What it all comes down to in the end is enforcement.

What can Apple expect as a consequence to the end user who willfully breaks their EULA?

What can Apple expect as a consequence to the person who not only breaks the EULA, but then profits directly from result? If I buy a new car...remove the logos and put my own on there and then resell it as my own, can I expect the manufacturer to be angry? Derivative use.
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Actually it has nothing to do with the user- the user can break the EULA to their heart's content. It's illegal of course but Apple is not going to bother suing a user if they choose to do this. The lawsuit comes into play when a third party company starts to profit from breaking the EULA. That's why Psystar is getting worked over and why this EFIX has the same fate in store for it I'd guess.

-Noah
 
William_Robinette said:
I would love to be able to (legally) run OSX on my self built PC. I have started to really like Leopard (I'm from a windows background) but paying $2800 for the Mac equivalent of my PC's ($900) horsepower is ludicrous.
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Please don't go there.

There is more to a computer system than components.

But please don't go there.
 
How the OS is tied into those components. Or in other words, the operating system.

When a company has control over both the hardware and the software, then there are less issues.

I have used both, and prefer the MacOS on Mac hardware over PCs.

But that's my preference.
 
Correct. Coding the OS towards specific hardware makes for a much more lean and stable system. When you have to code for dozens of motherboards, graphics cards, memory chips, RAM...and infinite combinations of all...then it is no wonder PCs have a bad rep.

This being said, I have made a Hackintosh and it is running Tiger, and I have FCP installed on it for my kids to learn. WOrks fine.
 
The real reason they don't want you to run their OS on non Apple hardware is because of support issues... and the fact that you are now buying somebody else's Hardware. I say it is my money, my choice, they can kiss my big white bottom. Not that I would ever want to taint my PC with Apple OS... :)
 
agree

agree

David S. said:
Please don't go there.

There is more to a computer system than components.

But please don't go there.
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I agree. I have never seen a more beautifully precision crafted machine from fit to finish. One of my ancient colleagues remarked that he has not seen a more well built computer since the days of his original VAX.

I have always wanted a Mac Pro, but now that I've got the money to buy one, I don't want to take the plunge only to have a product refresh 31 days later.

This EFI-X is definitely intriguing. I'm a pretty decent computer builder myself. I take pride in my cabling, fit, and finish and based on some simple newegg browsing and simple math, I could put together a competitive product to a well appointed mac pro for roughly $3,000-$5,000. That would include some very high quality components. I'd be curious to see how a Core 2 Extreme Quad setup would perform relative to a 8-core Dual Xeon setup.

At any rate, Yes, the EFI-X chip permits end users to violate the EULA. That being said, I can't stand it when the Apple Fan Boys give these enthusiasts a hard time.
 
I don't understand the need for this chip when you can currently make your own "hackintosh" without any chip necessary.

Also I like macs but they are grossly overpriced. You can build a top quality quad core pc for a third of the cost of a mac pro and have a lot more features and options available. And lets not even go into the price of the mbp compared to a non apple laptop.
 
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