MAC OS on PC hardware (not the illegal hackintosh).

Alexg said:
I don't understand the need for this chip when you can currently make your own "hackintosh" without any chip necessary.
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you can feel less guilty since you're installing a boxed version of OS X instead of some hacked download from the internets.. i'd feel better using a chip.

this new mod chip presents the opportunity to build a tower mac with a Blackmagic card (i.e. - video output) for under $1200, plus software. NICE!!!

i have no problem with apple's prices on macbooks and imacs. the mac mini is a great computer for the price, too. but, to get video output on an NTSC monitor from an HDV project , you either need to have a Mac Pro (a computer that costs, literally, 6x as much $$ as mac mini) with a blackmagic card OR use a macbook with the Matrox MXO 2 ( a $1500 piece of hardware that probably isn't as good as a blackmagic card).

as an apple user of five years, i say bring it on!
 
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Alexg said:
I don't understand the need for this chip when you can currently make your own "hackintosh" without any chip necessary.

Also I like macs but they are grossly overpriced. You can build a top quality quad core pc for a third of the cost of a mac pro and have a lot more features and options available. And lets not even go into the price of the mbp compared to a non apple laptop.
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You get what you pay for. I can build a faux Ferrari kit car for about $10,000 using an old VW engine. Sure it may look a little like a Ferrari but it's nothing like it in performance, reliability etc. Same idea. You want the best for your daily work, you pay the premium and go with the real hardware and software. If putting your data and work at risk when unsupported hardware fails or rendered unusable by a change in the OS is worth your time and aggravation, then I guess it's worth saving a few bucks. Not for me...

Noah
 
the biggest reason to do this over a software hack is that upgrading a software hack, you have to wait for a revision software hack, from a hacker, whenever they feel like doing it.

when you have the real thing (er, an EFIX chip), all you do is download from apple.
 
If you compare a Dell and MacPro configured similarly, the MacPro will be less expensive.

But a home built PC will be less expensive compared to a MacPro.

But then again, it will be "home built."

I can't risk issues with that approach in our production environment
 
Yeah when I buy an Apple I'm not expecting a box of parts at cost- which is what the DIY PC folks just don't get. I expect to pay a premium for better reliability, service and support that I've expected for decades from Apple. I highly doubt the good folks at EFIX or Psystar can touch that in any way shape or form.

Now if a company like Dell wanted to throw their service/support behind a Mac clone I suppose it would be a little more sensible. You'd have more expectation of reliability. But they have the good sense to avoid that risk at least while the court cases ensue regarding EULA.

Noah
 
Since probably all of Apple´s software prices reflect the unevitable purchase of Mac hardware, this hacking could be a problem.
Maybe the way to go would be paying more for the software, if allowed to be used on a PC.
If you´re a registred MacPro owner you´ll get FCS2 for the usual price, if not you´ll pay an extra...
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Spartacus said:
Since probably all of Apple´s software prices reflect the unevitable purchase of Mac hardware, this hacking could be a problem.
Maybe the way to go would be paying more for the software, if allowed to be used on a PC.
If you´re a registred MacPro owner you´ll get FCS2 for the usual price, if not you´ll pay an extra...
We´ll see...
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That sorta sounds good for Apple but don't see how it's any good for you Joe Consumer. Apple's definitely not going to try and support all the folks trying to hack their way to a cheaper Mac with PC parts. So you'd end up paying more for the same software with little extra guarantee it'll actually work. Meanwhile if you'd paid probably the same difference to just get Apple hardware you'd be all set anyway.

Half of these arguments make it sounds like folks who *want* to use Mac OS are somehow trapped into using Apple hardware rather than their cheaper PC gear. No you're not, you have Windows ready to roll for ya. Is it HBO's fault that I have to pay extra to see their unedited movies rather than be trapped watching them for free on ABC? Kinda same logic.

And btw- why is this in the workflow forum? This belongs in off-topic. :Drogar-Smoke(DBG):

Noah
 
Today, Mac's are build with PC parts.

That is why you can run so fast Windows on them. But the dongle PC works almost like a Mac (almost because only half of the video memory is available).

Definitely off topic.
 
I had Leopard running on a custom built PC a while ago and my piece of advise is: Dont bother.
Driver issues alone make it completely worthless and a huge waste of time. Just buy a Mac if you want to run Mac OS.
 
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