Issues With Mpeg streamclip. Any Alternatives?

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Bawes

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Every single time I try to convert my Canon 7D Video files (filmed at the 24p setting) the program freezez. I am using Windows 7 Pro and I even tried the setting to let me use it on Vista and XP and still the same thing.

AMD Phenom X4 9600 / 2.3 GHz/Quad Core
4GB Ram

The settings that I am using is...

dcloud said:
download mpegstreamclip
download dnxhd codec
convert clips with mpegstreamclip to mov dnxhd codec 1080p 23.97 10bit or 720p 59.97 10bit
open converted files in cs4
all 60p interpret footage to 23.97
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I am going to be using Adobe Premiere and After Effects CS4.

Any idea why there might be this issue?

I see people use Cineform, but that thing is...very expensive!
 
I've had no problems with MpegSt. I'm using FCP/MacBook though. I transcode everything with it.
 
OK, I see what it is doing.

It hangs up when I goto "Export Other Formats" and then select QuickTime Movie/Options/Settings/Avid DNxHD Codec and then change settings through there.

When I went to "Export QuickTime" one of the windows to customize stuff wasn't showing.

I think I got it now.
 
Bawes said:
I am going to be using Adobe Premiere and After Effects CS4.
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I may be an outsider on this, but I have an i7 with only 3 gigs of memory and it plays the clips in Quicktime perfectly.

I screen all the clips and take notes on what shots I want to edit without converting the files. Yes notes on paper, you would be amazed how fast you can find a missing shot you can't find at the end of a project with a thousand clips, a hundred folders, no sleep for weeks, and a hostile client standing behind you tapping his foot.

The original files import into CS4 EXcamHD 1080 project. On the timeline they don't need to be rendered and play smooth enough to trim.

Then I export the shots I need to Uncompressed Quicktime at 12 gigs per minute file size. If 10 bit or 8 bit the size is lower if the file size freaks you out, with similar quality and may edit easier on some systems.

My reasoning for this unconventional method is I don't believe it's worth it to convert all the H-264 compressed files to another compressed file type simply because it edits easier. First you must spend the time converting ALL the files and using storage space where the new files may in fact be inferior to the originals.

I don't really care how big the files become or how many hard drives I need. I only care about the quality.

Nothing to loose trying this method, because with data there is "delete" if it's not for you.
 
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handsome pete said:
Isn't it only $130? Seems relatively cheap for something you'll get a ton of use from.
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You can get it for $89.00 which is not that expensive considering you will use it all the time.

Videoguys.com has it for $99.00
Coupon code REGTEN gets you $10.00 off

total $89.00

$89.00 is worth eliminating my frustration. Consider how much is your time worth?
 
Bawes said:
I am going to do that now.



I saw somewhere that it was about $1000. I guess I read wrong. lol
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Cineform has a bunch of different variations. The $999 option is one of their 4K codecs.

I haven't used Cineform, so I don't know all of the differences between the various options, but I was just researching their prices a couple of days ago.

The cheapest one is called NeoScene, which is the one the other posters are talking about. I think the Cineform website says it only works with FCP though.
 
agcohn said:
Cineform has a bunch of different variations. The $999 option is one of their 4K codecs.

I haven't used Cineform, so I don't know all of the differences between the various options, but I was just researching their prices a couple of days ago.

The cheapest one is called NeoScene, which is the one the other posters are talking about. I think the Cineform website says it only works with FCP though.
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I had no problems using Cineform intermediates in Vegas Pro 9 on a PC (I had downloaded the trial version of NeoScene) with shots from my T2i. I was also trying to use MPEG Streamclip with the AVID codec (DNxHD) and had mixed results - trying to use an AVI container made files where the video stream was not recognized in Vegas, but the Quicktime container worked. However, the original clip was about 600 MB and the .mov ended up around 3 GB.

I need to play around a little bit more with all that before I put the money down for Neoscene, but I was really impressed with the performance. And Jerkstore - thanks for the tip - that's a good savings and may tip the scales toward a purchase.

If you're on the fence, download the 7 day trial of NeoScene and see how it performs in your workflow.
 
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agcohn said:
The cheapest one is called NeoScene, which is the one the other posters are talking about. I think the Cineform website says it only works with FCP though.
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It works with PCs as well, $129 retail, and I think Videoguys has it for $99.
 
PerroneFord said:
It works with PCs as well, $129 retail, and I think Videoguys has it for $99.
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I'm sorry.

I meant to say that the Cineform website listed FCP as the only supported NLE for Mac (iMovie as well, but that's not really a pro app).

I didn't pay much attention to their PC specs, but they did list several applications, including CS4 I believe.
 
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