C200: I found a better way to mount my C200 Touchscreen

On the MKII monitor sag seems to be the fault of the 2 small plastic locating pins on the hot shoe attachment (between the 4 screws):

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Once the monitor takes a knock they can snap and the monitor sags/rotates. I'm gonna see if Canon will sell me some spares as they're easy to replace.
 
puredrifting said:
I dig this for cradled shooting, although doesn't do much for you for shoulder mounted shooting. Very nice idea. You might pick up a Hoodman H400 hood, it isn't perfect but will make the touchscreen usable outdoors although the reflections still suck.
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Can I chuckle at the insanity of this without coming across like a horse's behind?? Why a touch-screen and not just a little rubber joystick that controls a pointer that you move around the screen, the joystick being depressed to activate functions? Using a finger to touch all over the screen to control focus ( to re-instruct AF ), your hand at times blocking your vision of the scene being recorded, your finger putting finger prints all over a display that, as a result of being un-louped, is already causing you to fight reflections...and now you have to reach inside a hood that causes your finger / hand to block your view of the image display even more....guys, this is madness.

The touch-screen should have stayed on smartphones. Along with AF. :laugh:


"Facebook live streaming" while wearing a light on my head. Ugh. This "millennial" / social media production world isn't anything that I want any part of.
 
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FWIW, I kind of agree with you JP. I am hardly ever using the touch in the touchscreen, I use the joystick on the grip much more. For some reason, on my 80D on my Zhiyun Crane, the touchscreen works really nicely but on my C200, I've used it maybe once or twice. Shooting dancers all last week, I was using the joystick on the grip much more. We had a C300 MKII as B camera and it works fine there as well.
 
JPNola said:
"Facebook live streaming" while wearing a light on my head. Ugh. This "millennial" / social media production world isn't anything that I want any part of.
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Don't worry...in 10 years DVXuser will be nothing but an archive lost in translation and all of these jobs will be completed by robots.

No one will care about any emotion in this human art because the world will be constantly consuming information from all angles with everything and won't be bothered with feelings.
 
puredrifting said:
FWIW, I kind of agree with you JP. I am hardly ever using the touch in the touchscreen, I use the joystick on the grip much more. For some reason, on my 80D on my Zhiyun Crane, the touchscreen works really nicely but on my C200, I've used it maybe once or twice. Shooting dancers all last week, I was using the joystick on the grip much more. We had a C300 MKII as B camera and it works fine there as well.
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Well there you go. I have displayed my ignorance regarding the C200. I didn't know that the AF selection could be controlled via the joystick thingy.

I know of at least one group of people who are excited about touch screens on pro video cameras-

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mrtreve said:
On the MKII monitor sag seems to be the fault of the 2 small plastic locating pins on the hot shoe attachment (between the 4 screws):

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Once the monitor takes a knock they can snap and the monitor sags/rotates. I'm gonna see if Canon will sell me some spares as they're easy to replace.
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1. That photo is from my blog.

2. For me the best solution so far for rock solid mounting of the C300M2 monitor has been to use the ¼-20" thread. I put a small Wooden Camera NATO clamp there and with that I can easily mount the monitor on my handle or, for a lower center of gravity, directly on my top plate. The Zacuto handle is more of an all in one solution but I like having the flexibility of also using the monitor without the handle. This makes it quick release for either setup.
 
laverdir said:
Yeah, yeah, yeah, 'independent filmmakers' (wedding shooters), we already said that.
And this guy here.

Classic hubris. Been there, done that...
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I don't understand the post. The link isn't functional as posted. Classic hubris on my part? Maybe so. I was skeptical of LED lights and now I use LED's more than I use incandescent or flo's.

Anyway, sorry for having hijacked this thread. Getting back to the C200 modifications, you all are going through the same thing that we Fs7 owners went through. One would think that a $7500 camera would not require additional expenditure on after market parts to make it work well, but it is what it is. And the individual customization, the "hot-rodding", is kinda fun.

There should be "Coffee and Cameras" meets where we all park our cameras outside a coffee shop and then we all stare at them together.
 
JPNola said:
Can I chuckle at the insanity of this without coming across like a horse's behind?? Why a touch-screen and not just a little rubber joystick that controls a pointer that you move around the screen, the joystick being depressed to activate functions? Using a finger to touch all over the screen to control focus ( to re-instruct AF ), your hand at times blocking your vision of the scene being recorded, your finger putting finger prints all over a display that, as a result of being un-louped, is already causing you to fight reflections...and now you have to reach inside a hood that causes your finger / hand to block your view of the image display even more....guys, this is madness.

The touch-screen should have stayed on smartphones. Along with AF. :laugh:


"Facebook live streaming" while wearing a light on my head. Ugh. This "millennial" / social media production world isn't anything that I want any part of.
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Ok, ok I'll steer clear of your lawn! GOT IT! ;)
 
@JPNola, here is the link:

http://cinematography.net/Canon C300-2 Digital Assisted Focus on a Movie .html

I would said that it's bad idea to put spaces in file names, but what do I know about those 'modern' web content management software.

Hubris is really contiguous when Canon is near.

Regarding additional expenditure, Adam's 1st girlfriend really shine in that area.
I heard that they were thrown out of heaven because of that.

PS. Here is an intro:

https://cinematography.net/CineRant/2017/06/12/autofocus-for-an-entire-movie-2/
 
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The demo camera in the background of this video seems to have a rod handle extension. Looks like it could be from Zacuto?

 
Alexander.M said:
The demo camera in the background of this video seems to have a rod handle extension. Looks like it could be from Zacuto?

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The rest of the stuff there (helmet, shoulder baseplate, etc.) is Vocas... so I'd guess that extension is as well.
 
Following up on my original post...

Following up on my original post...

Thought I would update my original post in this thread, here are some pictures of my stock C200 touchscreen mounted from the C200 handle. I ordered another 1/4' 20 ball fitting and Ultra Light Control Systems 3" extension rod, rather than the 5" extension I was using in the orignal photos in my first post in this thread. As you can see, this setup gets the touchscreen monitor farther away from my eyes, allowing me to actually see the screen clearly. Ultra Light Control Systems arms are available from www.filmtools.com. I like mounting the touchscreen from the handle better than from front rods as it gets the touchscreen LCD more in front of my eyes. This setup is far superior to the stock touchscreen mounting bracket, which feels so flimsy and places the screen too close to your face so it cannot be used as a VF. With two adjustment fittings on the arm, I have a lot of leeway for adjusting the angle and height of the LCD.

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They should come out with a c200B kit that has everything the normal c200 kit includes (handgrip, LCD/cable, handle), with a price savings for not buying their viewfinder.

You could add and use a third party viewfinder, without Canon's VF being on the back doing nothing. You of course can already do this but adding individual parts to the c200b isn't cheap.
 
rob norton said:
They should come out with a c200B kit that has everything the normal c200 kit includes (handgrip, LCD/cable, handle), with a price savings for not buying their viewfinder.

You could add and use a third party viewfinder, without Canon's VF being on the back doing nothing. You of course can already do this but adding individual parts to the c200b isn't cheap.
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I'm surprised at how many users I have spoken with at various events bought the 200B, when they introduced it, I didn't think very many would buy it. Guess I was wrong, the siren call of the gimbal is too strong ;-) I am glad I went with the regular model, the EVF has came in pretty handy on several shoots. For me, I don't want my A camera on a gimbal, I much prefer a small camera on a small gimbal that can be put aside, then grabbed when needed. That way, A camera is rigged for regular shooting and gimbal can be grabbed on a momen't notice to go shoot gimbal footage.
 
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puredrifting said:
I'm surprised at how many users I have spoken with at various events bought the 200B, when they introduced it, I didn't think very many would buy it. Guess I was wrong, the siren call of the gimbal is too strong ;-) I am glad I went with the regular model, the EVF has came in pretty handy on several shoots. For me, I don't want my A camera on a gimbal, I much prefer a small camera on a small gimbal that can be put aside, then grabbed when needed. That way, A camera is rigged for regular shooting and gimbal can be grabbed on a momen't notice to go shoot gimbal footage.
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Haha who down voted you for sharing helpful pictures?

Anyway if you were committed to a shoulder rig with the c200, do you think the c200b would be the way to go?
 
rob norton said:
Haha who down voted you for sharing helpful pictures?

Anyway if you were committed to a shoulder rig with the c200, do you think the c200b would be the way to go?
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Ha, ha, I don't pay attention to downvoting or upvoting, whatevs, but that is funny.

As far as shoulder mount, I would buy the C200B if I already owned or was commited to buying the Zacuto Gratical. I originally was thinking about the Gratical Eye because of the smaller size but it has to be powered from a D-Tap which would come from a V-Mount or AB brick and I have learned that I don't like the C200 shoulder mounted with a brick or at least my Maxoak big heavy bricks, it just makes a small, agile rig into a long and clunky, heavy rig. So adding a Gratical to a 200B would be a nice setup for shoulder mounted shooting. I have to say though that for interviews on tripod, I kind of like the built in EVF at the rear better than a side mounted EVF like the Gratical, although I supposed you could mount the Gratical to the rear of the 200B for those situations?
 
puredrifting said:
Ha, ha, I don't pay attention to downvoting or upvoting, whatevs, but that is funny.

As far as shoulder mount, I would buy the C200B if I already owned or was commited to buying the Zacuto Gratical. I originally was thinking about the Gratical Eye because of the smaller size but it has to be powered from a D-Tap which would come from a V-Mount or AB brick and I have learned that I don't like the C200 shoulder mounted with a brick or at least my Maxoak big heavy bricks, it just makes a small, agile rig into a long and clunky, heavy rig. So adding a Gratical to a 200B would be a nice setup for shoulder mounted shooting. I have to say though that for interviews on tripod, I kind of like the built in EVF at the rear better than a side mounted EVF like the Gratical, although I supposed you could mount the Gratical to the rear of the 200B for those situations?
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At some level it seems like a shame to not use a perfectly good EVF. Have you thought about a c200/easy rig combo? You'd take advantage of the built in EVF and don't need larger batteries..
 
rob norton said:
At some level it seems like a shame to not use a perfectly good EVF. Have you thought about a c200/easy rig combo? You'd take advantage of the built in EVF and don't need larger batteries..
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I have thought about that, I will rent an Easy Rig this Spring for some outdoor shooting on boats I am doing. I've never used one but an Easy Rig or an Easy Rig with a gimbal sounds pretty cool for certain shoots.
 
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