icarusfilm
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the S1H is the cheapest Netflix approved camera. Once you add an EVF, monitor etc. to the BGH1 it will be more expensive.
GH5 How interested are you in a GH6 anymore?
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That would be quite a build-out for the BGH1.
A lot depends on your needs and configuration. We just received two BGH1 bodies for use in a studio, and when I compare the features, convenience and reality of our needs, and include the relative costs of lenses, I'd guess we're saving about 50% over what it would have cost for S1H camera setups.
No, the BGH1 isn't designed for every type of shoot -- but after two days of setup and testing we're extremely happy with our choice!
Not sure it is designed for that way of operating. The value is control over Ethernet remotely in a multicam environment. Or purely remote operation. If you are going to add a monitor etc to hand hold getting a GH5S would be a better deal I think. Also I have GH5 and GH5S and still use Ninja V with both.
Yes, the Ethernet / POE capabilities were one of the deciding factors for us, but also having multiple output options as well as matching time code. It took about a day to get used to not having the viewing screen I have with my GH5s, but now the advantages of the camera are beginning to become obvious, and we're starting to get used to the design (and placement of the extra user buttons on the front.)
BobKo
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All is quiet on the GH6 front, but other manufacturers are announcing new products. Most recently is Sony, which unveiled the A1, a 50-megapixel camera capable of shooting 8K and recording it internally. The cost is a steep US$6,500 (without a lens, I assume). Here is a quote from TechRadar regarding the A1's video capability:
"While the Sony A1's 8K video is shot with 10-bit 4:2:0 bit depth and color sampling, it can also shoot 4K in 10-bit 4:2:2 video internally – and that includes in slo-mo 120p. Pro shooters will also be pleased to hear that it can output 16-bit raw video over its HDMI port, too."
The Sony A1 is expected to ship in March 2021. You can read more about the camera here: https://www.techradar.com/news/sony-alpha-a1-camera-official-and-its-the-most-powerful-mirrorless-camera-so-far
"While the Sony A1's 8K video is shot with 10-bit 4:2:0 bit depth and color sampling, it can also shoot 4K in 10-bit 4:2:2 video internally – and that includes in slo-mo 120p. Pro shooters will also be pleased to hear that it can output 16-bit raw video over its HDMI port, too."
The Sony A1 is expected to ship in March 2021. You can read more about the camera here: https://www.techradar.com/news/sony-alpha-a1-camera-official-and-its-the-most-powerful-mirrorless-camera-so-far
stoneinapond
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Oooo, innovation.... :bath:
Yeah, it's a great camera but the absolute antithesis of what the GH line stand for.
How much resolution does a camera like this need? I'd think 422 or 444 in 4k would be better. Make it 12 bit and that would be even better still. Getting to these specs by going 50mp sensor seems a little too far, you still need big sensor sites to get the better sensitivity and lower noise. A GH6 with a medium format sensor is no longer a GH6.
combatentropy
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4/3 was the best-selling mount (21.7%) in Japan this past year --- Matthew Allard, "Micro Four Thirds looks to be far from dead", News Shooter, 02 Feb 2021
The Japanese market is very different than global. First of all, it's very upscale. Second, it's very small-body driven. That's why Olympus holds about a 15% share there, despite having a negligible presence outside of Asia.
In the smartphone industry, the Japanese are also more unto iPhone than even the Americans (close to 60% share vs. 40% in the US). Globally, Apple's share is around 13%.
In the smartphone industry, the Japanese are also more unto iPhone than even the Americans (close to 60% share vs. 40% in the US). Globally, Apple's share is around 13%.
Rolf Silber
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Am still a bit befuddled about the output options in 4K - else fine little box.
No, I'm for it. The 2020 Samsung 65 inch QLED was about the same as I paid for my 55 inch Samsung 4K when I got it, and about 40% off the price of this year's 2021 model that is slightly improved for gaming but otherwise has all the same features plus the One Connect box and a preferable style of foot stands. I did need a little bit larger than 55 inch for the studio, saw that BB sold out, scooped one up on Amazon. I can see the pixels from about 3 feet, my seating position is 6 ft. My PC is up to the task for 8K, the QLED upscales nicely to 8K so why not? I'm booking up fast for weddings and editing work too, looking forward to a better 2021, the only thing yesterday was Ground Hog Day, Punxsutawney Phil emerged from his den and saw his shadow, terrible, terrible news, 6 more weeks of winter.
Samuel Dilworth
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So you’re seeing … [performs complex arithmetic] … about 4K’s worth of pixels?
I can barely cope with the data requirements of heavily compressed 4K. Stuff like Raw 8K is so far beyond what I can realistically use it’s funny. It might take me a decade to get there. Moreover, I would prefer to get rid of rolling-shutter artefacts and a dozen other problems or nuisances before increasing sensor resolution.
However, I’m excited by what a strong GH6 would mean for Panasonic’s commitment to the Micro Four Thirds platform.
ahalpert
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Are you shooting 8K weddings, Tom? I don't even shoot all my work in 4K, a lot is still HD. And what goes online (which is most of what I do) is probably viewed in 720p.
Would I like to watch Dunkirk in 8K? Sure. But it doesn't seem to matter for my business. 8K for extra cropping? Largely unnecessary and I will pass on the extra data and processing requirements. For now.
Would I like to watch Dunkirk in 8K? Sure. But it doesn't seem to matter for my business. 8K for extra cropping? Largely unnecessary and I will pass on the extra data and processing requirements. For now.
Yes - the variety of outputs is novel for me as well - but not sure what you're asking about 4k?
I can try combinations over the weekend if you have a specific question. So far I've been primarily using the 'normal' HDSDI & HDMI outputs - but started playing with the USB-C control & monitoring yesterday, and haven't fully explored the Ethernet and wi-fi options yet.
Did our first client shoot with 2 of them and a PTZ last week and all worked well. 'Full Distancing' -- We started multiple cameras rolling and left studio - monitoring from multiview in control room and client monitor in green room. Need to work on remote triggering options next. (Lumix Multicam Tether app looks promising over ethernet - but we didn't want to take chances with it on our first real go-round)
Rolf Silber
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Remote triggering via my (older) Atomos Shogun over HDMI won‘t work currently as expected, works with GH5 though. Strange. But wrong thread here, I guess.
Hi Abe,
Weddings I shoot in 2160p or 1080p, deliver 1080p. No plans for that to change. 1917 you might also enjoy. The only content I’ve seen in 8K are from Youtube, mostly a bunch of time-lapse. The video from the new Sony Alpha 8K was beautiful, but it’s not showing in 8K anymore, not sure why. But no, I’m not future proofing, was more of a “why not” decision since I don’t buy tv’s all that often.