HMC 150 Wedding Highlight Video

Jordan Berry said:
Some comparisons would be awesome. Also it appears you aren't using the flip.

So the LCD flip will flip the image and it looks right on your camera and then in post you just have to flip the footage?
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Yes, I use the LCD to flip the image for shooting. I correct the image orientation in post. I've created a shortcut key in FCP so it's super easy to correctly orient the image without wasting time. At first, I was trying to figure out a global way to do it to all the footage, but found that the shortcut key worked best.
 
some1shero said:
Thanks for the input Mark.

The quick pan from the groom to the bride was done on purposed. I can see your point about it being ugly. Perhaps if it where smoother rather than being such sudden motion, it wouldn't have appeared so bad. I wonder what others thought of that particular shot? Was it that bad to another set of eyes or was is even successful at all?

Here's what I roll with:
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=155651

I don't have any steadicam photos at the moment, but I'm sure I can put something together when I find more time. But a good friend of mine has the exact same HMC150/Steadicam here:

http://www.michaelshu.com/shumedia/Home.html (You'll have to imagine the DVX as a HMC though :))

Again, thanks for your thoughts Mark. They are well received. :)
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Let me add a little more info behind my comment of the fast pan being "ugly". I too edit weddings. I learned certain clients don't like fast panning in their video. Of course this is a clients personal preference, not ours. Ever since this happened to me i made it a point to remove those shots from my work if it was not done artistically. Like you said, it was done on purpose/planed. So i take it back.

Cheers /mc
 
Okay, here is some constructive criticism. Keep in mind, this is pretty much nitpicking. I LOVED the video and wouldn't complain if you left it as is, but figured since you're open to suggestions, I'll give it a crack.

Love the first couple steadicam opening shots.

Little girl shot in the beginning, the choppiness drew me out of the awesome 2 steadicam shots right before it. bummer.

Next sequence is a bit low on the mids. I know color is much more forgiving in pushing the mids, were you already at the max adjustments? If not, I'd suggest going back and raising that up. Seems like the floor (blacks) were pushed down only.

The groom and groomsmen sitting under that wooden canopy didn't match the color of the rest of the shots.

Saw a few of the shots that were blown out but if that's what you're going for, cool.

I can see you thinking about what shot matches what the singer in the song is singing on a few occasions. Nice touches.

After being opened up to much more shooting styles and seeing how wedding CINEMA is moving, slow-mo definitely has its place. Our studio (due to the influence of some other notable studios) has decided to use very little slow-mo. It'll also cause you to shoot a bit more thoughtfully since you can't salvage a shot by dropping it 30-40% slower ;).

So few things I think would take this piece over the top (besides less slow-mo, ;) hehe) :

1) Use of natural audio, bring in some vows during the low parts of the song or maybe even just while they're getting ready/throughtout the day. Toss in a preacher if they have a great voice or good narrative.

2) Brighten up some of the darker clips.

3) Careful to be more consistent on shot to shot primary grading.


Again, this is nitpicking. Did I say I liked this piece?

On the 24p timeline note, ahhh. So did you conform using cinema tools as well or just dropped it in and slowed them down?

Cheers!
 
mcvideo said:
Let me add a little more info behind my comment of the fast pan being "ugly". I too edit weddings. I learned certain clients don't like fast panning in their video. Of course this is a clients personal preference, not ours. Ever since this happened to me i made it a point to remove those shots from my work if it was not done artistically. Like you said, it was done on purpose/planed. So i take it back.

Cheers /mc
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for the record, not offended by our work being "ugly." And you don't need to take anything back. Honestly about the details of our work is what needs to be looked at to separate ourselves from the competition. :beer:
 
Humanoid Typhoon said:
Okay, here is some constructive criticism. Keep in mind, this is pretty much nitpicking. I LOVED the video and wouldn't complain if you left it as is, but figured since you're open to suggestions, I'll give it a crack.

Love the first couple steadicam opening shots.

Little girl shot in the beginning, the choppiness drew me out of the awesome 2 steadicam shots right before it. bummer.
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Funny, I had a problem with that too. As much as I like the little girl shot, I didn't like how choppy it came out. I KNOW that shot could have been executed better. Alas, run and gun doesn't allow too many directing liberties.

Humanoid Typhoon said:
Next sequence is a bit low on the mids. I know color is much more forgiving in pushing the mids, were you already at the max adjustments? If not, I'd suggest going back and raising that up. Seems like the floor (blacks) were pushed down only.

The groom and groomsmen sitting under that wooden canopy didn't match the color of the rest of the shots.
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I'll definitely put more effort to keep the color more consistent.

Humanoid Typhoon said:
After being opened up to much more shooting styles and seeing how wedding CINEMA is moving, slow-mo definitely has its place. Our studio (due to the influence of some other notable studios) has decided to use very little slow-mo. It'll also cause you to shoot a bit more thoughtfully since you can't salvage a shot by dropping it 30-40% slower ;).
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Good point. I will take that into consideration for the next edit/wedding/event.

Humanoid Typhoon said:
1) Use of natural audio, bring in some vows during the low parts of the song or maybe even just while they're getting ready/throughtout the day. Toss in a preacher if they have a great voice or good narrative.

2) Brighten up some of the darker clips.

3) Careful to be more consistent on shot to shot primary grading.
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Thanks for the tips/critique! That's exactly the kind of feedback I need to get better. I know it's a never-ending process, but that's what makes it fun.
 
Hi all....I'm the other half some1shero

First off I would like to thank everyone for your kind words and criticism. It means a lot to us as we are just starting out. Heck I didn't even know this was posted until now. One point some1shero forgot to mention is that some of the shots were done on a slider...not a steadicam. As much as I appeciate all the steadicam comments I can't take all the credit. The slider was just a simple fanstastic tool that we'll surely use more often.

Again thanks for everyone's comments. We're still struggling with color matching/grading, color temps, exposures and every issue that comes with weddings but this was our first wedding and definately won't be the last.

All the best,

Josh
 
FML, how do you setup your slider? on 1 or 2 tripods?

i'm having a tough time figuring out a configuration that is quick and easy to carry/setup on-location as well as getting smooth even slides.

i find that without 2 tripods the slider gets unbalanced too easily and the camera won't slide well. and with 2 tripods the whole setup is bulky and difficult to move around quickly to setup for new shots.

can you share your methods of working with it please?
 
averan said:
FML, how do you setup your slider? on 1 or 2 tripods?

i'm having a tough time figuring out a configuration that is quick and easy to carry/setup on-location as well as getting smooth even slides.

i find that without 2 tripods the slider gets unbalanced too easily and the camera won't slide well. and with 2 tripods the whole setup is bulky and difficult to move around quickly to setup for new shots.

can you share your methods of working with it please?
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We use a large heavy duty tripod in the center and try not to pan too far off from the center. When we do have to we'll support the ends with monopods for stability. Unfortunately I wish we did have a quick and easy carry setup. :( The slider is permanently mounted on wooden blocks on the ends. So for other shots we just pan from the floor or if a table is nearby we'll use that. Sometimes even two chairs will do the job in a pinch.

The secret to getting smooth slides is to use pledge! I kid you not. We wipe down the slider with pledge and our pans are slippery smooth. Too bad Pledge doesn't last forever! By the way we are using a homemade generic non-ball bearing slider. Nothing fancy like a Pegasus slider or similar. Not sure which one you're using but that's how we use ours. Hope that helps.

Josh
 
thanks josh.

i built my own from www.igus.com parts, left off the wooden blocks. ;)
uses the same plastic bearings. i've tried machine oil and wd40, but its so messy and wears off quickly!

will try pledge (the cure-all) and see if its any better.

i've also set up the slider on a tripod on one end and monopod on the other, but its only stable sliding towards the tripod.

thanks again for the tips...i should try setting it on a flat surface when possible too. my custom version is 'quick releasing', using wing nuts to connect to the tripod bolt instead of screwing the whole tripod onto the slider.
 
some1shero said:
I used the Scene File 4, which I think is Panasonic's version of Bleach Bypass. It gives me footage that I don't have to color correct much for Same Day Edits. But if I'm not doing SDEs, then I prefer the Cine D mode. Gives me gammas I like for maximum color control with more shadow and highlight detail.
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I'm a total newb when it comes to scene files... when you say scene file 4 or Cine D mode... are these custom scene files? Or they come with the panny HMC150?

AMAZING VIDEO btw ... gives me something concrete to aspire to.
 
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