GH4 Good time to pick up a GH4 body - $879

The subject has been brought up in the recent "Canon sues ..." thread. Apparently, these companies are prone to a few shenanigans, including but not limited to erasing the serial numbers, substituting the OEM accessories for the aftermarket, etc. This may not be the case with every discount online/eBay seller but, in general, it's one of those caveat emptor things.
 
The subject has been brought up in the recent "Canon sues ..." thread. Apparently, these companies are prone to a few shenanigans, including but not limited to erasing the serial numbers, substituting the OEM accessories for the aftermarket, etc. This may not be the case with every discount online/eBay seller but, in general, it's one of those caveat emptor things.

I actually just ordered one from them yesterday. They phoned me to confirm my order and address and so on. At least with the person I talked to they seemed professional and nice enough. Fairly reasonable for grey market.
 
I have no problem with grey market cameras as long as I know what I'm getting into (no warranty, knockoff accessories, not original packaging). A GH4 for only $879 is amazing, especially as a backup camera body. I'm seriously tempted...
 
I have no problem with grey market cameras as long as I know what I'm getting into (no warranty, knockoff accessories, not original packaging). A GH4 for only $879 is amazing, especially as a backup camera body. I'm seriously tempted...

Mine will be coming in on wednesday. I'll let you guys know if I got the original packaging and so on... Hope so.
 
So PrettyAwesome, did you receive the camera?

There's tens of thousands of complaints of fraud, bait and switch, and other frankly, illegal scams and other shenanigans going on at those predominantly East coast (especially New York & New Jersey) shops. There's one story about one of them here:

http://www.computerworld.com/articl...oklyn-camera-stores--the-scam-stops-here.html

If you like patronizing a shop that gets you the lowest price one individual component, you are frankly overpaying. A quality camera shop (of which there are actually very few) with a really educated and experienced staff will save you many thousands of dollars over the course of your career with equipment.

It's not about paying $10 under MAP price for a camera body, it's the tip off phone call you get about the only open box tripod in the county at half off, saving you $2000. Or the heads-up that you are buying something that is about to be replaced with something better, and perhaps best off all it's getting the phone call from a client that your camera shop referred you for paid work.

But the only way you get calls like that is to actually find the right partner in business who will actually take care of you and look out for you. It's not something you'll ever find at a box house, and definitely not an East coast "bucket shop" (an industry term for those scammers.)

It's an expensive life lesson but the sooner you can forge such a relationship the better off you are, and the faster you'll get ahead in your career.
 
I have no problem with grey market cameras as long as I know what I'm getting into (no warranty, knockoff accessories, not original packaging). A GH4 for only $879 is amazing, especially as a backup camera body. I'm seriously tempted...

I'm all for a great deal, but just a quick thought. What if one month into ownership a small defect appears. Even though small you are still looking for at the very least a $200 service charge from an independent repair shop. Now your bargain has cost close to $1,100, and that's if there're no new component costs involved. So your cheap camera is just as expensive as buying a discounted version from a reputable dealer.

Granted, the unit might perform flawlessly and if you have no risk aversion, could be a good deal. But…...
 
Oh, forgot to reply. Yes I did receive my camera. Came with all accessories and manuals. didn't look opened or tampered with. Was a risk to buy, but ended up being worth it for me. At least in my experience redtag camera seems to be legit.
 
I'm from NYC but since I moved to SEAsia in 2001 I haven't seen a US warranty, but always covered buy the manufacturer or importer.
Is the rest of the world just considered grey market goods?
 
Oh, forgot to reply. Yes I did receive my camera. Came with all accessories and manuals. didn't look opened or tampered with. Was a risk to buy, but ended up being worth it for me. At least in my experience redtag camera seems to be legit.

You've got a grand total of three posts on DVXuser & they're all in this thread. Color me skeptical.
 
There's tens of thousands of complaints of fraud, bait and switch, and other frankly, illegal scams and other shenanigans going on at those predominantly East coast (especially New York & New Jersey) shops. There's one story about one of them here:

There are lots of scams out there, but you can definitely find a good place.

As everyone knows, 99% of products are hundreds and thousands of dollars overpriced, and some places are a bit less greedy and are selling genuine goods at a lower price. For the record, I would sell everything as high as I could...but just saying.
 
There are lots of scams out there, but you can definitely find a good place.

As everyone knows, 99% of products are hundreds and thousands of dollars overpriced, and some places are a bit less greedy and are selling genuine goods at a lower price. For the record, I would sell everything as high as I could...but just saying.

Lol, wat?
 
... As everyone knows, 99% of products are hundreds and thousands of dollars overpriced, and some places are a bit less greedy and are selling genuine goods at a lower price. For the record, I would sell everything as high as I could...but just saying.
When I was in retail, there was a fairly easy divide between the "full service" stores that really tried to sell at MAP and the warehouse type establishments that had their floor prices considerably below the MAP. So, let's say, a hot big screen was advertised for $3,000 MAP everywhere but a discounter had it on the floor for $2,700 (with the wholesale cost being around $2,100). The idea here for a discounter is a greater volume at lower prices. If that establishment was large and known enough, it'd do tremendous business per square foot compared to the major chains. Their problem was having the same brand names as the major chains (such as Circuit City, Best Buy and alike) because the nationwide chains moved more overall merchandise and thus would refuse to carry a brand sold at the discounters. At the very lest, they'd demand a separate SKU created for a model that the discounters might sell. Often that model might have some form of crippling, such as mono instead of stereo sound, a different body style, etc.

These days, most brands and most retailers abide by the MAP but will offer "instant store rebates", which leaves them enough wiggle room on their contracts with the manufacturers.

And, of course, once a customer is inside a store, then anything above cost is a fair game. I was at an electronics chain store with a friend in the last week of Christmas shopping, with her looking for an inexpensive drone as a gift to her son. She picked an item, then asked the sales clerk to price compare. He pulled out his smartphone, scrolled a few pages and said, "Amazon has it for $40 less". Boom! An immediate price match. I asked if they matched B&H, just as a curiosity. He replied, "Only reputable retailers" (I don't think he knew what B&H was).
 
For the kind of gear we buy around here (DVX), I find pricing from reputable retailers to be within a couple dollars, across the board.

It's rare to see a significantly lower price than Adorama/BH/Amazon and find it's legit or a vendor you'd trust (other than refurbs or the occasional overstock pile that hits eBay).

"If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is" usually applies here - DVXuser has scores, likely hundreds, of posts about bait & switch sellers over the years.
 
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