GF1 testing and footage goes HERE

Tester13 said that these in theory maybe possible, but he has yet to get his GF1 for practical tests....besides the main focus right now remains the GH1.
 
Older PTool version to enable AVCHD settings

Older PTool version to enable AVCHD settings

Hey there,

could someone post the older PTool version which still allows to change AVCHD settings.

I tried to find it everywhere but could not find it.

Really hope that 3.37 will fix this issue.

Cheers,
Elmar
 
dasmeer said:
Hey there,

could someone post the older PTool version which still allows to change AVCHD settings.

I tried to find it everywhere but could not find it.

Really hope that 3.37 will fix this issue.

Cheers,
Elmar
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I am not sure if that is allowed. However, if someone confirms that it is ok to post old software I can post it.
 
dasmeer said:
Hey there,

could someone post the older PTool version which still allows to change AVCHD settings.

I tried to find it everywhere but could not find it.

Really hope that 3.37 will fix this issue.

Cheers,
Elmar
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I have the old ptool 3.36 and the new ptool 3.36 the difference is that the video buffer option has been removed but that doesn't mean you can not change the avchd settings.
People start talking without doing real tests. With both ptool versions I can achieve same results there is no conspiracy here. To achieve high bit rate footage you need to record a super high quality scene. (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/199525/00021.MTS)
So what this does in avchd is that erases the 17mbit/s top limit. So when the camera needs higher bitrate it doesn't hit a wall. I get 35mbit/s spikes in super detail scene and 22 in high detail.

What I've notice is that the exposure affects the compression big time under expose scenes get 7mbit/s with big mud in it weather there is detail or not. (I think if tester finds a way to put a lower limit then we will have no more worries.

Remember this hack is not finished, is on development and this version are not target towards tourists.
 
abasfly said:
Here is another GF1 test I did over the weekend:


lens 28mm
avchd settings:suggested value "c" ptool v3.36

you can see on the last clip that there is still mud in low light.
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Could you post a link to that video. The ebedded player is not working for me.

So you were able to get the AVC-HD bit rate to increase? Did you install the Ptool before Saturday? That version worked for AVC but it did not allow for different resolutions with MJPEG.
 
There were actually atleast 3 versions of 3.36. I got one on Friday that would alter the AVC bit rate and one on Monday and Tuesday that would not. Can you download the current version and see if you can alter the bit rate at all. No matter what settings I use it doesn't work with the most recent version. I can go back to the one from Friday and it works though.

abasfly said:
I have the old ptool 3.36 and the new ptool 3.36 the difference is that the video buffer option has been removed but that doesn't mean you can not change the avchd settings.
People start talking without doing real tests. With both ptool versions I can achieve same results there is no conspiracy here. To achieve high bit rate footage you need to record a super high quality scene. (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/199525/00021.MTS)
So what this does in avchd is that erases the 17mbit/s top limit. So when the camera needs higher bitrate it doesn't hit a wall. I get 35mbit/s spikes in super detail scene and 22 in high detail.

What I've notice is that the exposure affects the compression big time under expose scenes get 7mbit/s with big mud in it weather there is detail or not. (I think if tester finds a way to put a lower limit then we will have no more worries.

Remember this hack is not finished, is on development and this version are not target towards tourists.
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mpgxsvcd said:
There were actually atleast 3 versions of 3.36. I got one on Friday that would alter the AVC bit rate and one on Monday and Tuesday that would not. Can you download the current version and see if you can alter the bit rate at all. No matter what settings I use it doesn't work with the most recent version. I can go back to the one from Friday and it works though.
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ok did the test and the vlc crashed with the super high bit rate.
I used the new ptool 3.37d (development) but I think I could get the same results from la latest 3.36. the thing is to find the detail scene.
35mbit/seg file. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/199525/high_bitrate_ptool%203.37.MTS
if you want to check it out wait till it uploads. give it an hour or so.

The problem with the codec for me is still in the low light there we see the horrible mud,
the high bit rate is for well exposed scenes, under and over exposed get tho low bit rate
(as low as 7mbit/s).
if the codec set with lower limit it would be great.

plz modify your last quote with the vimeo window.
 
abasfly said:
ok did the test and the vlc crashed with the super high bit rate.
I used the new ptool 3.37d (development) but I think I could get the same results from la latest 3.36. the thing is to find the detail scene.
35mbit/seg file. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/199525/high_bitrate_ptool 3.37.MTS
if you want to check it out wait till it uploads. give it an hour or so.

The problem with the codec for me is still in the low light there we see the horrible mud,
the high bit rate is for well exposed scenes, under and over exposed get tho low bit rate
(as low as 7mbit/s).
if the codec set with lower limit it would be great.

plz modify your last quote with the vimeo window.
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Doesn't version 3.37d already have the option to set the lower bitrate for AVCHD?
 
abasfly said:
Not that I know of.

3.37 will be release officially after tested, and it is risk free.A lot of people are new here.
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I understand. I thought it may have been released already and I was just missing it. I will wait patiently.

I took some really cool macro footage tonight that I will post later on. I got a new 35-70mm F2.5-F3.5 macro lens that was really fun to shoot with. It only cost me $25 also.
 
Can anyone suggest a free place like where i can upload 2 x 640mb video files which will also allow users to download the originals? I dont think youtube allows the originals to be d/l only the youtube encoded versions.

Check out some of my early test footage here
http://www.vimeo.com/12652829
 
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The settings are still in the tool, but no matter what I put in I can't get high bitrates in the actual file when viewing it in VLC. This issue was confirmed from other users on this forum.

abasfly said:
I have the old ptool 3.36 and the new ptool 3.36 the difference is that the video buffer option has been removed but that doesn't mean you can not change the avchd settings.
People start talking without doing real tests. With both ptool versions I can achieve same results there is no conspiracy here. To achieve high bit rate footage you need to record a super high quality scene. (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/199525/00021.MTS)
So what this does in avchd is that erases the 17mbit/s top limit. So when the camera needs higher bitrate it doesn't hit a wall. I get 35mbit/s spikes in super detail scene and 22 in high detail.

What I've notice is that the exposure affects the compression big time under expose scenes get 7mbit/s with big mud in it weather there is detail or not. (I think if tester finds a way to put a lower limit then we will have no more worries.

Remember this hack is not finished, is on development and this version are not target towards tourists.
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dasmeer said:
The settings are still in the tool, but no matter what I put in I can't get high bitrates in the actual file when viewing it in VLC. This issue was confirmed from other users on this forum.
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Have you tried a super high detail scene. something with fine lines, color , or grass with wide lens and small fstop (8+-) while moving the camera?
 
thrice said:
Sorry mate :p

I think I'll get a GH1, everything I've read points to it being a much better tool for video, so I'll find a way to cope with the slightly thicker size :p
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From some of the more thorough test reviews I've read on line the GH1 is also a superior camera for stills too. It currently has a reportedly better IQ in it's RAW then any other M43 including the G2. And on a per-pixel evaluation it's also slightly better than the 7D - which is saying quite a lot actually. Anyway the GH1 vs Others is kinda off topic here maybe so I'll just leave it there.

http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/eng/Image-Quality-Database/Panasonic/Lumix-DMC-GH1 etc.
 
After trying a high detail scene, and moving the camera I exceeded 17 Mbps. Thanks for the tip, abasfly!

MediaInfo:
Format: AVC
Bit rate: 23.5 Mbps
Maximum bit rate: 16.6 Mbps
Width: 1 280 pixels
Height: 720 pixels
Frame rate: 29.970 fps

Patch done with 3.36 (latest). Settings 50/52/60. Card: Transcend 16Gb/Class10. Lens: 20mm/1.7@f8
 
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