D7100 available for preorder

squig said:
1 month b4 US launch, I think that guy is in Japan. He has other vids with the D7100 in his hands.
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It's just my opinion but I think this guy needs to take much better footage rather than posting multiple short and sketchy quality videos. it's not very helpful at all to post such videos.

Nikon is to blame as well. They should just designate someone respectable to make videos with each of their new cameras so that they control the quality.
 
Clean & uncompressed HDMI out? I didn't see that coming. Hoping for full-screen HDMI that's Ninja friendly. I would love to replace my Canon for a Nikon body - I'm just not 2nd nature enough with Canon's controls when I need a 2nd still body for gigs. And there's interface stuff I just hate on the Canon - like having to press a button before moving the focus point, or having to press "play" after a shot to zoom in on an image that's already displaying in the viewfinder. (Though maybe other Canon bodies have addressed that).

HDMI out AND the LCD at the same time? I could be very happy with that. I don't need a flip-out, I pretty much always have a loupe or monitor attached.

Yeah, Nikon's got the "can't change aperture while shooting video" issue - but every one of my lenses has an aperture ring, and for video, my hand just goes to the aperture ring without thinking - wouldn't want it any other way. Keeping my eye out for footage.
 
J.F.R. said:
I need an articulating screen to even consider this camera, Panasonic GH3 wins this for me on that alone. I honestly do not understand why many companies feel a need not to include this in their higher priced cameras.....
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I wrote about this before. can't remember where. so here goes again
I'm with you,. I was one of the original flip screen evangelists. But who listens to a guy that swears by his Nikon Coolpix 5000 & 8800 ? Nobody ;)
I did knock my CP500 over when I tripped on the tripod ( yes, it happened) and the flip screen took the hit and NEARLY snapped way off, I hot glued it in place.
I am a long time pro shooter and frankly, without a a second body would have had to call it day.
It's understandable that a PRO camera would avoid the flip screen as it poses a higher risk of failure than a fixed screen. almost guaranteeing a need for a backup body.. or two on paying location shoots.
I'm not happy to say it but there it is.
 
well, that's the usual low-res crappy video that a camera manufacturer such as Nikon would release with a new camera...
 
Zim said:
I'm still waiting for the D400!!
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I have the D300 for stills. I love it. I didn't upgrade to the D300S, because I thought that was just a point upgrade, and was waiting for the true successor to the D300. Well, it's been a long wait. And reading Thoms site and watching the parade of cameras out of Nikon, I'm beginning to think the D400 will never happen. I love the APS-C format and feel it's the best balance between detail and reach of lenses. But I don't feel like any of the APS-C cams from Nikon so far have hit the sweet spot for a true followup to the D300(S).

I'm invested in Nikon lenses, but feel alienated from Nikon cams. For now I'm hanging on to the D300, till it dies if need be... which may be as soon as a year or two from now (150K releases). At that point, if Nikon doesn't have a top-flight APS-C followup, I'll be looking around to see who else might have the best tool for my still photography.

As for video - Nikon blew it completely. They started this craze with the D90, and then... fell off the face of the earth. Now they are starting to wake up again, but all their offerings are still seriously compromised in odd ways. I guess we'll see where it all ends up. Never mind Canon and Panasonic, even Sony is blowing past them. With these releases they're trying to recover, but we'll see if they can really come back. I can't believe it's been so many years since the D90. Every year you think - finally, Nikon is gonna wake up. We'll see.
 
Well, Nikon has released what they have been able to produce video wise so far, nothing more, nothing less. They are going slowly but surely thru a natural process of development. Canon, Sony, Panasonic have pro digital cinema divisions that obviously share R&D and are still developing in the hybrid DSLR front. Nikon has done it from scratch and are hard at it. They have sold plenty of cameras and will sell even more as they improve. For those not happy with their latest cameras there is always Canon, Sony or Panasonic.
 
Not to hijack this thread but I don't think Nikon is all that far behind Canon or Sony or anyone else.
I think all HDSLR's are within the same league with some having a little more resolution or a little less moire but I've yet to see anyone one of them stand head and shoulders over the others.

I think Nikon is on the right track but we [the HDSLR users] have much room for improvement in the under $10,000 class [under 5K for me].

I believe we will get there more sooner than later.
The 5200 and maybe this 7100 seem to bare that out.

I am also holding my breath for the mythical D400 but for now I must go find the unicorn living in my back yard...
 
I'm CERTAIN that all the Camera makers are on the WRONG track if they think that serious Semi-Pro Video ( part time stills) shooters want anything that's set up like a DSLR.
We start to get closer to the mark functionally with cameras like the Nikon D7100, Canon 1D C but then the jump to Canon C300, Sony FS700 territory moves into rental territory.
No. The industry is still meandering around as they make their way, all of them to the Pro-Sumner Silver Bullet. A $3,000 BMC-like camera that shoots off a Super 35 sensor, has a decent audio in interface and can spit out uncompressed 4:2:2 in 8Bit or Smoothed 8Bit.
The latest Panasonic offering, the AF-100A gets close but still shoots 4/3 sensor which is great for ENG but not so great for feature,TVC etc. Plus it's too big a form-factor. If Panasonic can shrink that and give us a Super 35 sensor in a package with those features, we'd be where we need to be.
Are you listening Nikon ?????
 
LOL...
Did a HDSLR beat you up as a kid?

I understand what you are saying however there are Professional people who want the best video they can get in a stills camera...
 
I'm CERTAIN that all the Camera makers are on the WRONG track if they think that serious Semi-Pro Video ( part time stills) shooters want anything that's set up like a DSLR.
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Not really. Hybrid DSLRs are absolutely excellent tools with a great form factor. And they will certainly grow in popularity. Anybody with vision in this business can see that.
 
Hidef1080 said:
LOL...
Did a HDSLR beat you up as a kid?

I understand what you are saying however there are Professional people who want the best video they can get in a stills camera...
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ROFL

I'd rather shoot my feature with a DSLR than a video camera provided the DSLR produces the image I want for the film. D5200 testing starts today.
 
John Caballero said:
Well, Nikon has released what they have been able to produce video wise so far, nothing more, nothing less. They are going slowly but surely thru a natural process of development. Canon, Sony, Panasonic have pro digital cinema divisions that obviously share R&D and are still developing in the hybrid DSLR front. Nikon has done it from scratch and are hard at it. They have sold plenty of cameras and will sell even more as they improve. For those not happy with their latest cameras there is always Canon, Sony or Panasonic.
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I am with you on the aliasing/moire, jello etc... They had to depend on the sensor tech, more so that it is not that easy to read all the pixel from a 16/24/36 megapixel sensor. But in the case of the D5200 or this D7100, they could have easily provided a higher internal bitrate codec and 10 bit 422 if they had the will, with a log profile. How much pixel or at what speed they are being read from the sensor, in the end it is 14 bit raw, that they can and are processing through their imaging pipeline expeed. If you only need to just write some line of codes to get a lowly gh2 hardware from 24 mbit to 200 mbit, so for me they have no excuse. With just the above in at least a D7100 camera body would have made a big big shift in the dslr world over-nite.
 
We have no idea if the Expeed processor is capable of or the firmware is upgradeable to anything that you're asking for.
 
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Indeed. And still...
It was 18 months ago that I met a DP who was shooting 422 MPEG-2 on a 5D2 with experimental firmware that Canon had lent him. Santa didn't bring me one of those. And I'm still waiting for the flying car too.
(on the other side, I didn't get to see the footage, maybe it was awful, or at least not better than the standard codec, and that's why this never came to market)
 
BobbyMurcerFan said:
We have no idea if the Expeed processor is capable of or the firmware is upgradeable to anything that you're asking for.
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Yes we don't know for sure, but they could have upgraded it if need be. Doing more compression is more cpu intensive than doing less. It would need more bandwidth but when you think about how much data is being moved when it is shooting 16 megapixel 14 bit raw at 10 frames per second compared to some 2 megapixel HD video, you think that it must have way more banwidth. Do you think that the lowly gh2 hardware can compare to that. Another example is the Canon 1dc which is literally a firmware upgrade from the Canon 1dx.
 
The modern DSLR evolved from a FILM camera.The Kodak Sensor Driven Nikon, They hobbled it together for the AP as a beta. Since AP shooters & Nat Geo shooters were used to the SLR formfactor, it was a great segue into digital technology.
I spent the 80s as a still studio shooter and yes, I owned Nikon SLR's for fashion etc. But my preferred compact form-factor was my Hassy. Unless you constantly use the viewfinder in action sprots or news, the BOX is an easier shape to hold, mount and accessorize.

So I really jumped on the Canon HV20 when it first came out. A (psuedo) 1080p capable HD video camera about the size of a Hassy 500CM for under $1000.
I sympathize with all the folks that still love the mirrors and the dinosaur shape of the DSLR. It's still the best for Hybrid Photojournalism
Canon's Vixia line was not pursued as the forward strategy for the interchangeable lens Canon HD cameras and that's thier choice.

Nikon, is a hard core still company catering primarily to not studio shooters. So we'll see, who decides to break from the legacy of the Leica 35mm body in the next generation of compact video cameras.
If Nikon is smart, they ought to pull a surprise desgin on those that have a market lead on them in video.
Anyone can dump the DSLR though.
 
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