Covid-19 (Novel Coronavirus) - Effects on the production industry

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One possible positive outcome of all of this is that people in general will be more diligent about washing their hands and perhaps with all these other big events cancelled and air travel decrease everyone's overall health will improve as less germs are being passed on and people have more time to build up their immunity systems.

I don't watch the news so I don't know if people are reporting on this, but outside of washing your hands and not putting your fingers in your mouth and nose after touching a bunch of stuff in public, I think the smartest thing to do would be to proactively strengthen your immune system. Eat healthy, take multivitamins, good veggies, etc. Getting germs passed from others is just part of being human and sharing the planet with a few billion other people. Building up your body's resiliency along with common sense practices (wash hands, don't lick door knobs, etc.) is something that almost all of us can do without causing a panic. Last I checked the sanitizer and toilet paper were out at the grocery but there were plenty of organic veggies and multivitamins....

When I hear about cruise ship quarantines where so few people got the virus I can't imagine that those people infected were the only ones who came in contact with it - seems like a statistical impossibility. I imagine there were hundreds or dozens at least of other people who came in contact with the virus and by luck or diligence washed their hands and went on with their life unscathed. I'd be curious to know the percentage of people whose immune system fought off the virus on their own without them even knowing it. Like if someone touches the virus and licks their hands are they 100% going to get the virus or does the amount of the virus need to meet a certain threshold to overcome one's immune system?

Last year I got the flu for the first time in like 20 years (and it sucked), and yet my wife shared the same bed with me, cared for me, hugged me, kissed me and shared food and drinks with me before and during when I was symptomatic and she was totally fine - not even a sniffle. I know this isn't the same type of flu as the coronavirus, but I have to think that this isn't a global game of tag where someone with the virus touches you and then you come down with the virus. Sure you could pass it along to someone else with a weaker immune system (if you don't wash your hands throughout the day), but statistically I have to think the odds are way in our favor and even more so if you do what you can to practice safety and be healthy.
 
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chris f said:
Like if someone touches the virus and licks their hands are they 100% going to get the virus or does the amount of the virus need to meet a certain threshold to overcome one's immune system?
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If the world was like a video game and you could see your immune system's percentage and where the virus lives and how strong it is then maybe you can make some sort of educated analyzation about the risks involved. Besides that no one has an answer for that.

But just like with the common colds, I imagine some strains may be more fierce than others, especially after mutating and evolving.

A priest may also have a different answer than a doctor. (That is a comment about what a job/position may entail.)
 
Business Insider said:
South Korea has tested more than 140,000 people for the new coronavirus and confirmed more than 6,000 cases. Its fatality rate is around 0.6%.

This suggests that, as many health experts have predicted, the virus' fatality rate seems to decrease as more cases are reported.

That's because more widespread testing leads more mild cases to be included in the count.

The US, by contrast, has tested around 1,500 people. The country has 221 confirmed cases and 12 deaths, suggesting a death rate of 5%.
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It's serious. We get that. We're washing our hands and avoiding crowds. Check.

What more do you want? Should we panic? Should we raid Costco and get all the toilet paper and bottled water? Or do you want us to huddle in a corner and cry? I mean, seriously, what are you expecting to accomplish with this discussion?

My understanding was that this thread was established to discuss the effects on the production industry, a legitimate concern. Being upset because some people aren't acting as upset as others are, seems rather off the topic. And those telling people it's just a flu, are making equally unproductive comments.
 
I don't know if there's any comfort in anything that's said or will be said other than, "We have a cure."

Again, we should think about the big picture and realize downplay - not denial - may be the best response right now because no one is ready for, "We're all going to die."
 
(and in case anyone thinks I'm being flippant, I am sitting here with my octogenarian in-laws, one of whom is going in for surgery tomorrow. I GET IT. But there's not anything that you and I can do about it, other than what we are doing.)
 
Let me add this: I rode in, and stayed at a hotel on the trip, that offered "free breakfast". I walked in there, took one look, and got the hell out. It was a virtual breeding ground for coronavirus and flu. It was jam packed, people were sniffling, a kid in front of me was wiping his runny nose, and there was a tub of scrambled eggs that who knows how many people had sneezed on or dribbled in or licked their hands before touching the community spoon. In the fridge was a community gallon of milk.

HELL NO.

All I could see was fifty 180-lb bags of coronavirus all around me, and I had to be germ-free for my in-laws.

But if that's what they're doing in one small hotel on the fringes of Tucson... what do you think is happening in the hundreds of thousands of hotels Nationwide? Or the schools? Or job sites?

Hell, do you know how many people don't even wash their hands after wiping their asses?!?!!! And then those people touch doorknobs, and grab community ladels at buffets.

And there's nothing you can do about it. You can wash your hands, keep your distance, and stay home. That's it.

If you're advocating for pressuring governments to do something, go right ahead -- but not here. That discussion is for the rest of the internet, but not for this particular corner of it.
 
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It's a place for people to get away, get lost, pass time, maybe learn something...maybe escape reality for a second or two.
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Understood, and I am sympathetic to that. My question is more about addressing those who have apparently got different intentions.
 
I work at a fairly large Hyatt Regency for the A/V company housed within it, and I can say that both the hospitality side of the building as well as my company is being affected by it. The governor of Colorado just declared a state of emergency. It will be interesting to see how April and May line up for my company in terms of events. I had one camera op gig for the 29th cancel on me.
 
We've got the handshake policy from NAB and the sneeze guard from the mayor to protect us. NAB, here we come!

USA Today - "LAS VEGAS – On March 15, MGM Resorts International will temporarily close buffets at the company's seven Strip properties: ARIA, Bellagio, MGM Grand, Mandalay Bay, The Mirage, Luxor and Excalibur. ... Las Vegas Mayor Carolyn Goodman said she respects MGM Resorts’ efforts to keep the public safe from coronavirus – but she would not have closed the buffets. Goodman referenced the use of glass on cruise ships to keep patrons from breathing on buffet food as a better solution."
 
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According to information from Italy, one of the biggest causes of mortality from COVID-19 was not the virus itself directly, but that the virus caused damage to the lungs that resulted in bilateral interstitial pneumonia which is what ultimately kills the affected patients. It therefore is likely that getting vaccinated against pneumonia might be very helpful, especially for older folks. As yet, I don't think there's been a run on pneumonia vaccines, so that might be something to look into if you have older friends or relatives you're worried about - the vaccine won't hurt and might be helpful anyway even quite apart from the current COVID-19 pandemic, as older people die of pneumonia on the regular. YMMV.
 
Barry_Green said:
Let me add this: I rode in, and stayed at a hotel on the trip, that offered "free breakfast". I walked in there, took one look, and got the hell out. It was a virtual breeding ground for coronavirus and flu. It was jam packed, people were sniffling, a kid in front of me was wiping his runny nose, and there was a tub of scrambled eggs that who knows how many people had sneezed on or dribbled in or licked their hands before touching the community spoon. In the fridge was a community gallon of milk...
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I went to a Japanese buffet last week. I probably should have thought better.

But, after coming home, I did have a shot of brandy. Whether it helped with the bacteria or not is anyone's guess.

PS. Miami-Dade has no cases so far. Broward has four. South Florida is home to a gigantic ocean going cruise industry and two major domestic/international airports (MIA - 45 million passengers in 2019; and FLL - 36 million).
 
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