Canon T2i Owners = Where's the footage, where's the beef?????

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Here's just a still frame....maybe I can post some video after I test this tonite. Dropped a clip into FCP, playing fine.

1st impressions are nice, but I'm a DSLR noob.

EDIT: youtube link The little guy didn't want to be filmed, so it was hard to focus. Again, I will post more real footage, but the battery died, so I'm charging it right now. Just a tease, sorry.

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Nowhere to find sample 1080p 30fps .mov clips online anywhere ?? Hmmm. not even a 5 second clip from Canon site ? I guess I have to buy one and have faith in it. That still leaves me with the file size limit dilemma. I think I'll wait.
 
Norman99 said:
Where can I get a small sample video clip from it ( not QT or Vimeo) just the ORIGINAL video clip as shot from the camera without ang modification like 10 seconds of it at 1080p, as I need it to see if my computer can handle it in it's software and the time it takes to encode, edit and so on. I hate to buy and then see I don't like the workflow or quality.
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You might try picking up a class 6 SDHC card and shooting some of your own store samples. I got one a year ago when I first started testing these cameras for the same workflow concerns. Found out all I needed to know right from the horse's mouth. If you're in NY B&H is a good place to start.
 
Yeah, I have to go and buy a class 6 card just to get a 5 second sample. Canon, are you listening ??? would anyone that is serious about the HD quality really go out and purchase it based on Vimeo sample clips? I mean can the posted samples do justice to the quality that is to be eventually be input on a 1080P large 42inch+ HD LCD screen. Those are the popular sizes now aren't they ? Those samples are on the internet and probably seen on a 20 inch monitor but the actual clip on Vimeo is 1/3 of that on the screen. How can anyone judhe HD on an equivalent area of around 30 square inches ? If I had a small .mov clip directly from the camera, I would immediately make a HD DVD and feed it on my 42 inch 1080p LCD. Now that's what I wanna see. The proof is in the pudding.
 
Norman99 said:
Yeah, I have to go and buy a class 6 card just to get a 5 second sample. Canon, are you listening ??? would anyone that is serious about the HD quality really go out and purchase it based on Vimeo sample clips? I mean can the posted samples do justice to the quality that is to be eventually be input on a 1080P large 42inch+ HD LCD screen. Those are the popular sizes now aren't they ? Those samples are on the internet and probably seen on a 20 inch monitor but the actual clip on Vimeo is 1/3 of that on the screen. How can anyone judhe HD on an equivalent area of around 30 square inches ? If I had a small .mov clip directly from the camera, I would immediately make a HD DVD and feed it on my 42 inch 1080p LCD. Now that's what I wanna see. The proof is in the pudding.
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Get a life dude and calm down.....

Many Dslrs have been shown on large screens, if you would do your research instead of crying here you would know that. You are bringing nothing positive to these boards or thread so do yourself a favor and vamoose.

With that said Vimeo/Youtube gets view by millions of people, so yes it means something.
 
Norman99 said:
Yeah, I have to go and buy a class 6 card just to get a 5 second sample. Canon, are you listening ??? would anyone that is serious about the HD quality really go out and purchase it based on Vimeo sample clips? I mean can the posted samples do justice to the quality that is to be eventually be input on a 1080P large 42inch+ HD LCD screen. Those are the popular sizes now aren't they ? Those samples are on the internet and probably seen on a 20 inch monitor but the actual clip on Vimeo is 1/3 of that on the screen. How can anyone judhe HD on an equivalent area of around 30 square inches ? If I had a small .mov clip directly from the camera, I would immediately make a HD DVD and feed it on my 42 inch 1080p LCD. Now that's what I wanna see. The proof is in the pudding.
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Just google it. The clips from the 7D can be found pretty easily these days and they're a good indication on what to expect from the 550D files since they are identical.

It really sounds like the camera for you today is the GH1. Until the next gen of SD cards come out, the 12 minute limit will not resolved.

As for me, the fact that I can pick up a DSLR that shoots amazing HD video for less than a 35mm adapter forgives a multitude of sins in my opinion.
 
The one positive thing I am bringing is the fact that this file size limit thing may be a minor factor that is very often overlooked until the purchaser is caught in a situation that requires continuous capture. It may be insignificant to many, but very annoying and disastrous to those who find out the hard way when the camera stops after 12 minutes. No. I am not complaining, I haven't bought the camera to complain about it. I do believe that many will purchase it just for the video feature alone, at least they will know that.
 
Norman99 said:
The one positive thing I am bringing is the fact that this file size limit thing may be a minor factor that is very often overlooked until the purchaser is caught in a situation that requires continuous capture. It may be insignificant to many, but very annoying and disastrous to those who find out the hard way when the camera stops after 12 minutes. No. I am not complaining, I haven't bought the camera to complain about it. I do believe that many will purchase it just for the video feature alone, at least they will know that.
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Everybody buying this camera or any previous Canon DSLR already knonws about it and have work around for it and it is no big deal, if they don't then it is their own fault for not doing research before buying this camera, I think you should stay with video camera, and let us dumbmy play with DSLR, video camera don't have time limit, aliasing, moire, audio problems, video camera also have peaking on the VF and LCD auto focus, articulated LCD ..., this is a camera trying to shoot video, to get the same amount of zoom power of a 20X video camera would cost you thousand on lens...
 
Norman99 said:
The one positive thing I am bringing is the fact that this file size limit thing may be a minor factor that is very often overlooked until the purchaser is caught in a situation that requires continuous capture. It may be insignificant to many, but very annoying and disastrous to those who find out the hard way when the camera stops after 12 minutes. No. I am not complaining, I haven't bought the camera to complain about it. I do believe that many will purchase it just for the video feature alone, at least they will know that.
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How about film the ceremony and speeches with a traditional video camera that shoots 1080 30P and leave the rest for DSLRs. To be honest, video cameras- as unsexy as they seem to be these days- are ideal for wedding ceremonies. They have audio jacks, no time limit, and a long zoom range. Nobody says you have to shoot the whole day with DSLRs.


That being said, there are people who are at the top of our industry shooting all day with DSLR and they got past the 12 minute limit. You make it sound like a deal breaker when it isn't.

Chris W
 
Chris, I agree with you. To many it is not a problem about that file limit. But any event ( and there are too many of them) videographers like myself, that is an absolute must. The holy grail is to stop using tapes and SD quality for that matter and to travel light. The DSLR is great but it must deliver the goods. Now here is a camera that "almost" fits the bill, but leaves a seemingly insignificant feature omitted. That to me is the Achille's heel. To most others that is nothing. I would buy such a camera even at double the price, I even considered the 5D mk2 and many others. I cannot shoot a ceremony with 2 cameras, not that I can't but I do well over 70 weddings a year and synching, color consistency, timeline correction is not part of my agenda. That file limit is not the SD card characteristic at all, as I have been wrongly told, but a certain import tax thing on a full fledged video camera. Now if Canon realizes the need of all those event videographers, that's fine, Canon will sell more. I belong to a Videographer's group that all agree to what I am saying. If I was doing a movie in a controlled setting, like Hollywood, fine, I can pause between takes and breaks as most takes are less than a few minutes. In a demanding assignment like a wedding, one does not have the luxury of pausing at will.Some speeches do go over 12 minutes. One who says that it is a small thing hasn't done any weddings at all.
 
Norman99 said:
Chris, I agree with you. To many it is not a problem about that file limit. But any event ( and there are too many of them) videographers like myself, that is an absolute must. The holy grail is to stop using tapes and SD quality for that matter and to travel light. The DSLR is great but it must deliver the goods. Now here is a camera that "almost" fits the bill, but leaves a seemingly insignificant feature omitted. That to me is the Achille's heel. To most others that is nothing. I would buy such a camera even at double the price, I even considered the 5D mk2 and many others. I cannot shoot a ceremony with 2 cameras, not that I can't but I do well over 70 weddings a year and synching, color consistency, timeline correction is not part of my agenda. That file limit is not the SD card characteristic at all, as I have been wrongly told, but a certain import tax thing on a full fledged video camera. Now if Canon realizes the need of all those event videographers, that's fine, Canon will sell more. I belong to a Videographer's group that all agree to what I am saying. If I was doing a movie in a controlled setting, like Hollywood, fine, I can pause between takes and breaks as most takes are less than a few minutes. In a demanding assignment like a wedding, one does not have the luxury of pausing at will.Some speeches do go over 12 minutes. One who says that it is a small thing hasn't done any weddings at all.
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I hear the t2i will take the SDXC cards that should alleviate the 12 minute limit since the new FAT 32 system can write a file up to 2 TB. I don't know if there will be an artificial 29:59 limit placed on the recording time after that but even if there is, there's always a lull to pause and hit record again.

Many people have offered solutions to your "problem". It's up to you to take that advice or not. As for me I've given my last word on this issue and I hope others do the same.
 
Thanks Chris. Here in NY we got hit with a massive snow storm and that is why I have time to be on this and talk a lot today. However that Fat32 , SDXC thing may solve this issue, and I do believe that Canon will impliment that soon. There are different answers I get including a video tax on cameras , who is right and who is wrong ? at this moment I have to wait and see. Yes, it is a lot of camera for the money, but if it does not fit my shooting style, even free won't cut it. Thanks again
 
Chris - Great footage! I like the fact that the simple Spiderbrace and a monopod was used to help stabilize the shots. Combined with the VC from the lens it make awesome steady footage! Doing weddings you'll need a longer reach than the 24-70mm(?) lens. I heard that Sigma is coming out with the 70-200mm lens with its own version of IS. Looking forward to seeing this lens in action and hopefully at a lower price than the Canon IS lens,
 
PixelWrangler said:
Chris - Great footage! I like the fact that the simple Spiderbrace and a monopod was used to help stabilize the shots. Combined with the VC from the lens it make awesome steady footage! Doing weddings you'll need a longer reach than the 24-70mm(?) lens. I heard that Sigma is coming out with the 70-200mm lens with its own version of IS. Looking forward to seeing this lens in action and hopefully at a lower price than the Canon IS lens,
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Yeah I'm holding out for that Sigma. In the meantime, I have a wild hair to just get a cheap old school m42 zoom lens just to have something to play around with in the meantime. Anyone use the old manual lenses on the Canons?
 
PixelWrangler said:
Chris - Great footage! I like the fact that the simple Spiderbrace and a monopod was used to help stabilize the shots. Combined with the VC from the lens it make awesome steady footage! Doing weddings you'll need a longer reach than the 24-70mm(?) lens. I heard that Sigma is coming out with the 70-200mm lens with its own version of IS. Looking forward to seeing this lens in action and hopefully at a lower price than the Canon IS lens,
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That's my quandry right now to be honest. I know I need a 70-200 but I want image stabilization as well. I think in the meantime, I'll just get a cheap m42 zoom just to hold me over until then. It might be fun to try some of the old manual lenses out.

Chris W
 
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