C500: Canon C700 Production

I find this vociferous demands for a certain type of films to showcase cameras a bit funny. If a person intends to know what is capable with an equipment, then he/she can find out from a list of shots. If is needed, highlight roll off, low light ability, performance in shadow areas, various skin tones in different lighting conditions, details in slow motions etc can be judged even if a film is not shot by a Hollywood ASC. It need not even be a multi-million dollar film. It is another matter that if I haven't shot a multi-million dollar movie then demanding such budget splurged in a camera showcase is just pretentious.

If a person is talented then he/she can find out the ability of equipment from mundane shots showcasing each parameter. A Leonardo DiCaprio and Tom Hanks need not act in a gear showcase promo.

PS: I find "The Calling" nicely showcases the qualities that a person needs to evaluate the camera.
 
indiawilds said:
I find this vociferous demands for a certain type of films to showcase cameras a bit funny. If a person intends to know what is capable with an equipment, then he/she can find out from a list of shots. If is needed, highlight roll off, low light ability, performance in shadow areas, various skin tones in different lighting conditions, details in slow motions etc can be judged even if a film is not shot by a Hollywood ASC. It need not even be a multi-million dollar film. It is another matter that if I haven't shot a multi-million dollar movie then demanding such budget splurged in a camera showcase is just pretentious.

If a person is talented then he/she can find out the ability of equipment from mundane shots showcasing each parameter. A Leonardo DiCaprio and Tom Hanks need not act in a gear showcase promo.

PS: I find "The Calling" nicely showcases the qualities that a person needs to evaluate the camera.
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Well said!
 
Absolutely. Even funnier when 90% of the people commenting will never ever use the camera in question and are just pixel peeping a youtube video and comparing on paper specs.

That said, I've no interest in watching someone running around using natural light only shooting shaky out of focus REc709 ungraded material as a test . Would much rather see what it can create in capable hands as part of a proper workflow.

I imagine the only reason I'll use a C700 is if I deliberately decide to hire one for a short or something but in all other ways aside from price point, which can always change, it really looks a solid offering.
 
The DJI video was smart- very smart. It's for a different, broader audience than what the C700 is targeted for. It's a "see how good our XX5 camera can look in a full on production." (which is very good) "and how good your productions can look with our gear."

The C700 is targeted for professionals in a very crowded market place. We don't need to be "wowed", though it doesn't hurt. Eventually Geoff Boyle will publish his tests on cinematography.net and that's always a helpful starting off point, but not the whole story, and also not necessarily the best reference material to show a director.

I"d like to see the mundane tests that can assist us in evaluating new cameras. I'd also like to see gorgeous material that shows the gear in best light- and shorter- like 2-3 minutes, something we can reference with directors and producers. So a technical test and an emotional response test.

Of course virtually all the current cameras will look fantastic with the right approach- it's a question of how much work it'll take to get there. And that's where the mundane tests help- so we can start to get a grasp on the task at hand.
 
The Indian clip is too fast-cut. But it's made for a huge, huge market and, if that's the style in vogue there, then ARRI did what it had to do.

As to the Alexa Mini - it should be the prototype of promo clips. Indoors, outdoors, daylight, nighttime, various colors, human faces, motion, stationary. Done.
 
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