You won't get a "street price" until it's shipping in quantity everywhere.
Canon C300 MKII Announced
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You won't get a "street price" until it's shipping in quantity everywhere.
I don't remember reading that anywhere official; just people like us on forums speculating. In fact planet5d published Canon USA's full press release and their msrp is $20k.
I won't be buying one but I will be renting the hell out of this when it's available.
Matt Gottshalk
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Sweet.
filmguy123
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This looks like a really nice camera, it's just too bad the pricing isn't more competitive. If it was priced right around or just below the FS7 and FS700 it would be game over. Oh well! Out of my budget.
I think it's priced appropriately.
It competes competitively with the F5/55 and Alexa now, with internal 12bit 2K 444. The F5/55 has the SR codec, HD 10 bit 444. Alexa has 2K/HD 12bit Prores 4444. For me, that's the important comparison.
I believe the new Fathers and Daughters movie, shot by Shane Hurlbut, was shot C500 at 2K 10bit 444, external recording. I'll take 2K 12bit 444 over 4k 10bit 422.
It competes competitively with the F5/55 and Alexa now, with internal 12bit 2K 444. The F5/55 has the SR codec, HD 10 bit 444. Alexa has 2K/HD 12bit Prores 4444. For me, that's the important comparison.
I believe the new Fathers and Daughters movie, shot by Shane Hurlbut, was shot C500 at 2K 10bit 444, external recording. I'll take 2K 12bit 444 over 4k 10bit 422.
greenheron
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The original C300 came out at around this price point and it has taken over a certain part of the professional market. This camera makes huge improvements in usability, versatility, and picture quality (specs). If you used or bought the first camera, this camera will offer HD improvements as well as 4K. If it is out of your budget then fortunately there are several cameras now filling the gap. For many people this will replace the C500 as a camera that will record internal 4K and 4K raw with a recorder. Very versatile. A great package if you have an investment in Canon lenses.
If you are looking to 5K, 6K or whatever then this is not the camera for you. If you are looking for the cheapest way into 4K then this is not the camera for you. Right now the Sony FS7 seems the best value in a 4K camera but not without it's own issues and concerns. The new C300 MII is exactly the camera I expected from Canon except I thought they would provide an Mpeg2 codec as well. For me that is the only ofputting thing that I have seen from the initial specs.
If you are looking to 5K, 6K or whatever then this is not the camera for you. If you are looking for the cheapest way into 4K then this is not the camera for you. Right now the Sony FS7 seems the best value in a 4K camera but not without it's own issues and concerns. The new C300 MII is exactly the camera I expected from Canon except I thought they would provide an Mpeg2 codec as well. For me that is the only ofputting thing that I have seen from the initial specs.
goodgoings
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Funny. I wonder what Shane Hurlbut will say about this after he left Canon for RED?
Mitch Gross
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4K/UHD video recording to ProRes and 2K/HD 12-bit RGB 4:4:4 are "out-of-the-box" with no additional cost. 4K/UHD RAW up to 60p requires the Canon RAW Record Option.
We have confirmed with Canon that the C300 Mark 2 will output 4K RAW up to 60p, just like the C500. The 4K video is limited to 4K30p, both for internal recording and for video output.
traviswears
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Specs look awesome.
Price seems right for as many improvements as they made. Watching the intro video, it's clear they really thought about this update. The CLOG2, Wide DR Flat, extra ND, etc...is going to make this camera a joy to use in the field.
A little bummed this doesn't come out until September. Was hoping to get my hands on one for the summer.
Price seems right for as many improvements as they made. Watching the intro video, it's clear they really thought about this update. The CLOG2, Wide DR Flat, extra ND, etc...is going to make this camera a joy to use in the field.
A little bummed this doesn't come out until September. Was hoping to get my hands on one for the summer.
Eric Coughlin
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Will the cheaper Atomos CFast cards be compatible with the Mark II?
Does anyone know the weight of the Mark II?
Does anyone know the weight of the Mark II?
I'm confused. Your second sentence seems to contradict the first. The second says that the video output is limited to 4K30p and the first says it can output 4K60p.
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traviswears
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Weight is about 1.5 lbs heavier than original C300, which weighed 3.2lbs w/out a lens attached. So you're looking at a little over 4.5 lbs for body alone.
The 4k RAW will output up to 60p. The internal 4k or the 4k output to ProRes will be limited to 30p. You'll need to purchase a recorder and the Canon RAW codec in order to shoot 4k 60p RAW. Or you can shoot internally or to ProRes (with a recorder) at 4k up to 30p.
refocusedmedia
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alaskacameradude
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Video output as ProRes = 4k30p. Video output as Raw = 4k60p.
Mitch Gross
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RAW data is not a video signal. It needs to be processed in order to transform it into video, but this also gives greater room for post manipulation, plus RAW data stores in a much smaller amount of memory space than video does.
The C300 Mark 2 will output RAW data in 4K and UHD up to 60p. If the output is set to 4K or UHD video (not RAW data, but pre-processed video), then the maximum frame rate is 30p. This is also true for the internal 4K and UHD video recording. The maximum frame rate for this is 30p as well.
Please note that the video output of the C300 Mark 2 utilizes dual 3G-SDI outputs. That means that while the Odyssey7Q+ can plug directly into it to capture either 4K video or RAW data, the Shogun cannot. The recently announced PIX-E recorders cannot either, as they only accept 4K video over HDMI.
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Matt Gottshalk
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All said and done when I had mine I was well into $24k+.
A Freudian slip?
It's about one third the price of the Varicam and 1/5-6th of the basic Alexa (which doesn't have a real 4K sensor either). It's a totally different price-per-value camera.
refocusedmedia
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pulpfiction007
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To me what's amazing about the C300 MK2 is how most of it's specs can be reached right in camera. Get the camera, add a lens and a card, you're good to go.
Can't wait to see how that 12 bit 4:4:4 HD looks, the C300/100 already looked great to my eyes. This camera seems impressive at first look, including the price for what you can do without adding anything else.
Can't wait to see how that 12 bit 4:4:4 HD looks, the C300/100 already looked great to my eyes. This camera seems impressive at first look, including the price for what you can do without adding anything else.