C200 images

This is an M.2 SSD
I don't thing this is the best format for cameras. I'd rather have just 2.5" SATA SSD drives.

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DLD said:
The internal SSD's was something I had advocated over here about a year ago.

Toshiba just came out with their 64 layer "gum stick" models in 256, 512 and 1024. And a day later, WD and SanDisk announced competitive "mainstream" products too.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/daveal...64-layer-3d-nand-ssds-up-to-2tb/#5b3a7f025e79

http://www.tweaktown.com/news/57778/toshibas-64-layer-xg5-ssd-rocks-2gb-sec-write-speeds/index.html
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Isn't going to matter to Panasonic, Sony and RED, the proprietary memory formats are cash cows for them. That's one thing Canon gets props for, they don't make proprietary media formats. CFast in not super popular yet, but Canon doesn't make it and at least the same format is shared with BMD and Arri.
 
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puredrifting said:
Isn't going to matter to Panasonic, Sony and RED, the proprietary memory formats are cash cows for them...
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As the quality-for-price ratios plummet, the ability to squeeze extra profits from the accessory sales goes down as well. It's one thing to sell $1,500 cards for a $45,000 pro camera; it's the other to sell $3,500 worth of cards for a $7,500 one. Having said that, I think it's more likely that the higher priced models will incorporate some internal memory like that 64-layer Toshiba for, at least, a backup to the removable media.

And, of course, the prices of the various cards are going down too. The only V90 rated SDXC card is going for less than $2/GB in the 128 GB size.
 
The Canon Exec who Produced the short that was presented at Cinegear told me after the presentation, that he had $6000 in CFast cards in his pocket like a bunch of poker chips for the 1.5 day shoot, just to manage media capture, and he was paranoid about losing them. I don't think many people want to spend more than the price of the camera on media. Yikes.
 
I would be more paranoid about ~$30,000 17-120 on the gliding boat in rough sea.
Look at 'From Dock to Dish' BTS video and count the cost of equipment they used, price of the camera bodies is among the cheapest items.

Also, I could make-up the story that I wouldn't buy C200 because then (for my application) I would need $15,000 Neumann Solution-D Stereo system to use AES/EBU audio inputs.
Fear psychology never works.

Remember the times when 1 GB CF card costed a fortune and the arrival of 16 GB CF cards which could be bought for peanuts?

Until the price of media gets reasonable, don't use wrong methods to get the job done.

256 GB CFast 2.0 card can be unloaded and content verified (even against camera sensor faults) under 10 minutes.
And then the content is ready for review, if desired, to create custom LUTs for looks and apply them when transcoding it to any desired format.
 
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laverdir said:
256 GB CFast 2.0 card can be unloaded and content verified (even against camera sensor faults) under 10 minutes.
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I've seen a Lexar 512GB 3500x, but the Sandisk one seems not to be manufactured. People advices about Sandisk, because they say it's better. How is the Lexar?
 
Samuel H said:
This is an M.2 SSD
I don't thing this is the best format for cameras. I'd rather have just 2.5" SATA SSD drives.

Toshiba-HG5d-cSSD.jpg
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The pix-e uses similar with msata. They have a usb enclosure for it and its pretty dandy. This Just needs a really good enclosure.
 
laverdir said:
I would be more paranoid about ~$30,000 17-120 on the gliding boat in rough sea.
Look at 'From Dock to Dish' BTS video and count the cost of equipment they used, price of the camera bodies is among the cheapest items.

Also, I could make-up the story that I wouldn't buy C200 because then (for my application) I would need $15,000 Neumann Solution-D Stereo system to use AES/EBU audio inputs.
Fear psychology never works.

Remember the times when 1 GB CF card costed a fortune and the arrival of 16 GB CF cards which could be bought for peanuts?

Until the price of media doesn't get reasonable, don't use wrong methods to get the job done.

256 GB CFast 2.0 card can be unloaded and content verified (even against camera sensor faults) under 10 minutes.
And then the content is ready for review, if desired, to create custom LUTs for looks and apply them when transcoding it to any desired format.
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The C200 requires proprietary Canon software to view the RAW files at the moment. We'll have to wait and see how the RAW files play back in FCPX, Premiere or Resolve without being transcoded first. Conversion is NOT done in the camera. The camera will record a proxy file to SDXC though, and I believe it will do so in 2K Prores, but I can't recall.
 
There are even end-to-end production pipelines that support real-time de-Bayering and grading of LIVE 4K RAW from Canon C500,
support for C200 flavor of RAW will be released when the camera hits the streets.

Regarding proxies, no Prores on SDXC, just 8bit 4:2:0 MP4 and 4:2:2 XF-AVC in free future firmware upgrade.
 
puredrifting said:
Thanks Darren, very cool, I never knew that.
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Well, most people would never want to do that on purpose... ; ) Actually, they should make it almost impossible to activate(must be turned on EACH time the camera is turned on and must click YES 23 times). I'm sure someone has gotten burned by it.

Slightly different, but I've seen people have shoots ruined using external recorders and they didn't realize they were taking the "dirty feed" from a camera.
 
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