Bern Caughey
Veteran
One CFast slot, & two SD, on a camera that's main selling point is internal Raw recording (to CFast)?
C200 images
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Liam Hall
Veteran
I know! Good luck with that 16 minute take...
Bern Caughey
Veteran
The lack of UHD Raw is puzzling too. Why only DCI?
puredrifting
Major Contributor
256GB CFast will give you 30 minutes. But at a price.
Albert Rudnicki
Member
c200 pretty much renders out my 7 months old 300mkii.
wish I had never gone out from Arri camp...
wish I had never gone out from Arri camp...
Canon C200 Cinema RAW Light 1/3 - 1/5 File Size of Cinema RAW
Canon C200 Cinema RAW Light 1/3 - 1/5 File Size of Cinema RAW
Canon C200 Cinema RAW Light 1/3 - 1/5 File Size of Cinema RAW
Canon C200 Body with EVF, LCD, & Handle 2215C002 $7499
Canon C200B Body No EVF, LCD or Handle 2216C002 $5999
Canon C200 24-105mm II Kit 2244C002 $8399
LM-V1 LCD Monitor 2417C001 $699
LA-V1 LCD attachment Unit 2418C001 $199
GR-V1 Camera Grip 2420C001 $239
HDU-2 Handle Unit 2421C001 $199
CL-V2 Clamp base for EVF-V70 2419C001 $349
CG-A20 Battery Charger 2416C002 $349
Canon C200 Cinema RAW Light 1/3 - 1/5 File Size of Cinema RAW
Canon C200 Cinema RAW Light 1/3 - 1/5 File Size of Cinema RAW
Canon C200 Body with EVF, LCD, & Handle 2215C002 $7499
Canon C200B Body No EVF, LCD or Handle 2216C002 $5999
Canon C200 24-105mm II Kit 2244C002 $8399
LM-V1 LCD Monitor 2417C001 $699
LA-V1 LCD attachment Unit 2418C001 $199
GR-V1 Camera Grip 2420C001 $239
HDU-2 Handle Unit 2421C001 $199
CL-V2 Clamp base for EVF-V70 2419C001 $349
CG-A20 Battery Charger 2416C002 $349
James Bridges
Well-known member
No 4K out of the SDI port...no interest...
greenheron
Well-known member
Weak Codec in both HD and 4K.
4K RAW is DCI not UHD.
No timecode in or out.
This is not a camera for serious documentary or broadcast work. Still aimed at the event and wedding market. Canon states in their advertising that it is targeted as a "B" camera for the C300 II but it is crippled with no timecode. Just finished a job using both the C300 II and an original C300 and it worked fine because we could jam sync the cameras. Independents may buy this camera hoping to shoot low end films, docs, etc, and if you are aiming for streaming online it might be the right camera. Too little too late for me. Might also work for some corporate work.
4K RAW is DCI not UHD.
No timecode in or out.
This is not a camera for serious documentary or broadcast work. Still aimed at the event and wedding market. Canon states in their advertising that it is targeted as a "B" camera for the C300 II but it is crippled with no timecode. Just finished a job using both the C300 II and an original C300 and it worked fine because we could jam sync the cameras. Independents may buy this camera hoping to shoot low end films, docs, etc, and if you are aiming for streaming online it might be the right camera. Too little too late for me. Might also work for some corporate work.
Matt Gottshalk
Resident Preditor
Anyone that relies on unproven media on paid client project gets exactly what they deserve.
Strangely low end and high end at the same time with not much in the middle. If you're in the unique position of producing YouTube vlogs by day and Netflix approved 4K content by night...then the C200 has you covered.
Even though Canon's 'optimised' 8 bit may look better than competitors 10 bit, most traditional broadcasters still won't accept it.
Even though Canon's 'optimised' 8 bit may look better than competitors 10 bit, most traditional broadcasters still won't accept it.
Bern Caughey
Veteran
kludge
klo͞oj/
informal
noun
noun: kludge; plural noun: kludges; noun: kluge; plural noun: kluges; noun: cludge; plural noun: cludges
1.
an ill-assorted collection of parts assembled to fulfill a particular purpose.
COMPUTING
a machine, system, or program that has been badly put together.
2.
a BlackMagic Ursa utilizing Atoch's CFast-to-SSD "Digital Bulk Loader".
Yes, of course, it's not like any grip ever improvised anything on the spot. Ever.
Trek of Joy
Member
Post of the day, this cracked me up. Nice.
puredrifting
Major Contributor
I agree, great post Bern. The solution is interesting but yes, kind of homemade looking and definitely not refined or integrated into the design of any camera. I would love to shoot the C200 RAW to SSDs integrated into the body somehow. Shooting tons of RAW Light to a cheap 480GB SSD makes sense. But then the Sonys, REDs, Panasonics of the world couldn't gouge us with exorbitantly priced proprietary media ;-)
Run&Gun
Veteran
I've shot RAW a few times on my F55 and from an operator perspective, it's easy. But I had nothing to do with the post. Funny enough, one of the shoots was for BTS/EPK for a movie. They wanted 4K RAW because the interviews were green screen.
I ran across an R5 RAW recorder for the F5/55 on eBay and it was a really low price and in great shape. I guess some guys are dumping them to get the new R7. I thought about it for a minute, BUT as you say, the proprietary media is exorbitantly priced. Their cards go from $1200 for a 256GB to $4500 for their fastest 1TB card. For comparison, a 256GB XQD(SxS Adapter) only runs $376.
puredrifting
Major Contributor
Camera media is still all relative as far as cost. CFast 2.0 cards at $679.00 per 256 GB seem expensive until you look at P2 Express cards for the Varicam LT at roughly double that price for the same 256GB. Which seems really expensive until you shoot with a Codex back and media. I just wish we could bag most of these dumb proprietary format profit centers and we could shoot most everything on certified, robust SSDs at about $200.00 for 480GB. That's one thing I miss about the old days, S16 film was S16 film, no matter which camera you shot it with. Every time I buy a CFast, P2, SxS, card, I just stare at it, knowing I just spent a lot of money on a format that will be trash heaped in just a few short years.
puredrifting
Major Contributor
What exactly is m.2? I remember Panasonic's weapon against Sony Betacam was called M2. It was a truly terrible, unreliable format.