Aftershock bodycam
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Jason Miller
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I loved it, Chuck's brother, what an idea!
the revolving and rotating action shots are amazing,
the walking shots are cool, but the running shots feel a bit unnatural to me, you can tell that somthing is restricting your movement when you run with it on.
its the rotating and revolving shots that have me a bit baffled, I can't think of how you cah do that wirh it attached to your waist without some sort of bearing hooked to you.
However you've done it I'm amazedthey look like hollywood dolly+turn table shots.
I'd really like to know how you do it, if you can email me some photos, I promise not to share them with anyone!!!!!!!???????? PPAAAAALLLLEEEAAAAASSSSSEEEEEE???????????
the revolving and rotating action shots are amazing,
the walking shots are cool, but the running shots feel a bit unnatural to me, you can tell that somthing is restricting your movement when you run with it on.
its the rotating and revolving shots that have me a bit baffled, I can't think of how you cah do that wirh it attached to your waist without some sort of bearing hooked to you.
However you've done it I'm amazedthey look like hollywood dolly+turn table shots.
I'd really like to know how you do it, if you can email me some photos, I promise not to share them with anyone!!!!!!!???????? PPAAAAALLLLEEEAAAAASSSSSEEEEEE???????????
Gary Sconce
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Well... Because you asked so nicely... Here is some BTS of the Maelstrom being alpha tested by my cousin Vito...
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Notice how happy he is with the test by his excited pose at the end...
Jason Miller
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ahhh its just a hulahoop cam, it all makes since now! lol, thats some funny stuff,
I've watched Norris now 3 or 4 times and I keep seeing things that impress me. the shot where he wakes up and gets up to run, and you come up behind him was awesome, there was also a cool low angle shot, looking up at you.
and i don't know if its because you have more practice, with this set up, or if its because a cop in a foot chase would be more cautious than a crazy masked bad guy, but your movements while wearing the rig looked much more natural than the other actors.
I'm also starting to realize that some of the awkwardness I feel when watching it in the walking running shots, mainly when it is behind the actor, is because I've never seen this, I mean I've seen cameras follow close, but they never matched the movement of the walker/runner, so as a viewer it makes me feel that rather than following the actor, I feel as if I'm in a giant papoose, I think the more the viewer gets used to this look the less awkward it will be.
I thought you mentioned another adaptation of it for high overhead shots? will there be footage of that soon?
and in case you haven't gotten the impression from the rest of this post, you have many shots in this film that just blew my freaking hair back. I mean this thing is big, its a snorry cam, a steady cam, and some kind of new freaky rotational cam all in one, and yes with the way the actors move, it seems to be more compact and weigh much less than a snorry or steady cam.
I think the only thing that could make it better would be to actually shoot Chuck Norris on a cell to cut back from you to him at the end.
I've watched Norris now 3 or 4 times and I keep seeing things that impress me. the shot where he wakes up and gets up to run, and you come up behind him was awesome, there was also a cool low angle shot, looking up at you.
and i don't know if its because you have more practice, with this set up, or if its because a cop in a foot chase would be more cautious than a crazy masked bad guy, but your movements while wearing the rig looked much more natural than the other actors.
I'm also starting to realize that some of the awkwardness I feel when watching it in the walking running shots, mainly when it is behind the actor, is because I've never seen this, I mean I've seen cameras follow close, but they never matched the movement of the walker/runner, so as a viewer it makes me feel that rather than following the actor, I feel as if I'm in a giant papoose, I think the more the viewer gets used to this look the less awkward it will be.
I thought you mentioned another adaptation of it for high overhead shots? will there be footage of that soon?
and in case you haven't gotten the impression from the rest of this post, you have many shots in this film that just blew my freaking hair back. I mean this thing is big, its a snorry cam, a steady cam, and some kind of new freaky rotational cam all in one, and yes with the way the actors move, it seems to be more compact and weigh much less than a snorry or steady cam.
I think the only thing that could make it better would be to actually shoot Chuck Norris on a cell to cut back from you to him at the end.
Gary Sconce
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Chuck Norris would be cool. I wish we could get him, but I bet he is asked daily for stuff and can't do it all.
You did see the high rig, and the shot was looking down at Norris when he climbed the stairs. You didn't notice it as the angle seems so natural. We shot the stairs with: A) The rear mount (lower looking up) B) the front mount (from the rear and the front too) and the high rig (from the front angle). We didn't use the low rig for the short as we were too pressed for time but it is amazing too. It shoots from inches off the ground and from nearly 6 feet away from the target, front or rear!! It even shows a karate kick above the camera POV. Notice there are rotating Maelstrom shots all through the short from start to end. Even the sticks shots are shot from the rig as it acts as a stable tripod!
I am working on the patent pending... except for this post of course! I honestly CAN'T find anything that is like it. I am trying and trying with a deliberate and exacting background check of patents. I have found steadycams, body holding cams... but nothing like the Aftershock Bodycam and Maelstrom. :cheesy:
Jason Miller
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yea the stair way shots looking down where very natural.
can I ask how much is weighs? and how large is it compared to your hypercam?
can I ask how much is weighs? and how large is it compared to your hypercam?
Jason Miller
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I don't think you're going to find anything, most of your shots can be done with other rigs, assuming you have all those rigs handy , the spinning shots can be done with either a green screen and a turntable, or a turn table and a track dolly that circles the actors, but I have never in my life seen a rig that give the freedom of motion, and control of motion your rig seems to give. I have to believe that if someone had invented something like this before it would be everywhere.
I have a feeling your rigs going to be bought by every cop drama on tv, It isn't hard to picture that spinning shot going around Jack Bauer as the clock is ticking away and he's trying to figure out what to do next. (Disclamer, I am not now nor have I ever been a fan or "24")
I have a feeling your rigs going to be bought by every cop drama on tv, It isn't hard to picture that spinning shot going around Jack Bauer as the clock is ticking away and he's trying to figure out what to do next. (Disclamer, I am not now nor have I ever been a fan or "24")
Gary Sconce
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That would be great! The Aftershock Bodycam weighs, depending on attachment, between 6lbs and 20lbs less camera. :kali:
Gary Sconce
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Thanks so much Charles! Did you see the running steady shots? It even acts as a base mount like a tripod. My favorite is the double rotation around Norris as he runs full speed into the parking structure with his gun drawn then runs through a door. Notice the fight scene shots where the rotation by Norris is the opposite of the rotation of the HVX camera. I also like that the rig keeps right on focus even in rotating close ups.
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Jason Miller
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and it's bigger than a penny but smaller than a breadbox lol, but wow 20 pounds isn't bad, many steadicams outweigh that. and I'm pretty sure the snoorys are around that if not more.
Jason Miller
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I also like that the rig keeps right on focus even in rotating close ups.
It looks like the distance from camera to subject doesn't change during the revolution.
charles
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Thanks so much Charles! Did you see the running steady shots? It even acts as a base mount like a tripod. My favorite is the double rotation around Norris as he runs full speed into the parking structure with his gun drawn then runs through a door. Notice the fight scene shots where the rotation by Norris is the opposite of the rotation of the HVX camera. I also like that the rig keeps right on focus even in rotating close ups.
now I have not seen a rotational bodycam before so this might just get you your emmy for innovation along with Garrett Brown.
Again, nice job. I am expecting a long list of clients already Gary
Gary Sconce
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Yeah, it is lightweight, which is a real plus.
We shot around one more hour of footage with me just testing the different parts of the rig in various situations. When we have the time (STRICKEN is going great guns right now...) We will edit together a real solid, "What the Aftershock Bodycam can do" Tutorial to be provided with the product. The cool thing is, it is so fast to put on, take off and change rigs that you can really get a lot of different things done in a very short amount of time and with completely different shooting angles and different POV of the target.
Gary Sconce
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How did you get Chuck to call you right in the middle of filming? Awesome!
Do you guys have a price point on the unit as of yet?
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I wish we could have really had Chuck. I hear he is a totally nice guy.
I have no idea what price it will cost. I know that I spent around $100 for the parts of the Maelstrom unit, and probably another $75 for all of the other parts. But, hey, I don't count my labor, and I am sure that will double the cost there. Also, I am the emperor of scrounging stuff for free. Heck, I build a 21' trussed/suspension camera Hypercrane for $142!
This is a modular device, so it will probably sell in pieces or sets according to how many of the applications you want to have. The base model will probably be pretty cheap and then it will go up. If you take my labor out and make them quickly assembly line fashion, a base unit should cost around $400 to $500 bucks and then with all attachments in a complete rig, it could top $2000... still a bargain for all the stuff it can shoot. I am in contact with some major manufacturers by email and the one who buys it will, I'm sure, do some marketing tests to see what it will appropriately sell for.
This is all 'cart before the horse' as I am finishing the patent pending as we speak.
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Gary Sconce
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I love what I saw. When all of the smoke clears I hope to be 1 of your 1st customers
Not because I invented it, but it really is amazing, even to me. I woke up at 4:30am with the idea last November and hopped out of bed and drew it up. I built it through December and had it finished by January. The Alpha test (on youtube.com) was shot February 5th. The short NORRIS is the first film in history to use it. Hopefully many thousands more will add the movement of the Maelstrom to their quiver of cinematographic arrows to shoot.
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