AF100 / AF101 - initial report

Barry_Green said:
That's exactly what I mean. That's what I shot. I shot a bunch of 32fps, 40fps, 44fps, and 60fps stuff in 1080.

What it won't do is "live"-looking 1080/60p. But it will do 1080/24p @ up to 60fps, or 1080/30p @ up to 60fps, or 1080/25p @ up to 50fps.

Plus, it has 720p mode with VFR too.

So yes, it's 1920x1080 @ 60fps recording, with playback at 24p or 30p.
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I guess the website is not up to date http://pro-av.panasonic.net/en/af100/feature02.html *2 VFR in 720p mode is not supported.
 
I know I have asked this before in a different thread but, at the time there was not as much data and discussion about the AF100.

What are the pros and cons between buying a AG_AF100 or a Canon XF305 with SGBlade 35mm adaptor and some Zeiss ZF lenses?

I believe that one of them is being able to autofocus in the AF100 with Lumix Micro 4/3 lenses. Another difference maybe the low light capabilities of an AF100 compared to a XF305 with SGBlade...

But in the end I would spend more on XF305 + SGBlade than on AF100 + Lumix lenses...

Can I have some opinions on other pros/cons of each of these solutions?

Also... I've been reading a lot about the AF101 (Europe) being available for pre-order. Is this a fact or a rumour? If a rumour, then when a fact?

Thanks.
 
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One is a heavy thing that needs lots of light made of a bunch of stuff jerry rigged together to emulate what the other was actually made to do and do better in low light.

Kind of like asking "is this golf car with a race car engine in it, a fiber glass formula one shell bolted on it, pulled behind a motor home, better than the formula one car."

That is of course, assuming that the finished thing is as good as what Barry got to play with and that further testing doesn't out any issues.
 
If the small Sony 35mm is $20k(as rumored) or above $10k then this Af100 will be the new undisputed Indie cam following it's grand daddy (Dvx100) and it's daddy (Hvx200) footstep. Now let's hope that it will at least give us clean ISO up to 1250. This is definitely will push the 5D as a specialty B cam for those extra epic super wide shots only cam and would kill the bulk of the 7D & 60D sales.
 
LuckyStudio 13 said:
If the small Sony 35mm is $20k(as rumored) or above $10k then this Af100 will be the new undisputed Indie cam following it's grand daddy (Dvx100) and it's daddy (Hvx200) footstep. Now let's hope that it will at least give us clean ISO up to 1250. This is definitely will push the 5D as a specialty B cam for those extra epic super wide shots only cam and would kill the bulk of the 7D & 60D sales.
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I get the excitement over the AF-100, believe me. But to say a (likely) $6,000 specialty video camera (that comes with no lens) is going to kill "the bulk" of the sales of a camera (60D) that costs a fraction of the price is just nonsense.

Remember, there's an entire segment of the population out there who uses Canon's still cameras for (gasp) their intended use: taking pictures.

Nothing is going to "kill" anything. Except maybe in Barry's resolution chart tests, of course.
 
Maybe I shouldve bracket my words properly. The Af100 will take away a lot of sales from the 7D-T2i from the micro budget indie production. $6k for a camera that solves majority if not all of HDSLR shortcoming is godsend. Will there be ppl tht still buys the 60D ?? Of course, just like there are ppl tht uses the hv20 with their home made adapter, but these are not the market that most of us here on the forum are concerned or compete with.

If this camera low light capacity is as good as the HDSlR then it's the begging of the end for the HDSLR as the main A cam. As cheap crash cams in an indie productions, the 60D fits the bill perfectly at $1100 a piece.
 
Just saw the updated specs on panasonic's website; they list the camera as weighing 2.64lbs. Thats lighter than I would have thought.
 
Stephen Mick said:
I get the excitement over the AF-100, believe me. But to say a (likely) $6,000 specialty video camera (that comes with no lens) is going to kill "the bulk" of the sales of a camera (60D) that costs a fraction of the price is just nonsense.

Remember, there's an entire segment of the population out there who uses Canon's still cameras for (gasp) their intended use: taking pictures.

Nothing is going to "kill" anything. Except maybe in Barry's resolution chart tests, of course.
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Agreed.

It's interesting however, to see people, (myself included) pay upwards of $6k on accessories to make a camera like the 7d perform like a real video camera when the AF-100 will do it all right out of the box, with the addition of a lens.
 
mcgeedigital said:
Agreed.

It's interesting however, to see people, (myself included) pay upwards of $6k on accessories to make a camera like the 7d perform like a real video camera when the AF-100 will do it all right out of the box, with the addition of a lens.
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Not to mention the fact that you wrote a book about it. :D
 
and a lot of people have their own lenses already they have already been using with their DSLR's for video, granted they might have to sell/trade in their EOS glass for some manual lenses, but plenty of people have bought FD lenses, older Nikon, etc. for their DSLRS, 35 mm adapter, GH1. I think glass is a mute point, you buy a DSLR you are going to buy glass, and older manual lenses can cost a lot less than modern lenses now if you know where to look. FD glass is no near the price of L series EOS glass now. Old Nikon manuals are fairly abundant. And there' still the 4/3 zooms you can buy to gain data and electronic control.

the 6 grand that was gonna go to accessories can go to something that will last them through several camera generations now. Lenses.
 
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