7D has manual control 1080p 24/25/30p and 720p 50/60p

Barry_Green said:
It gives FCP the same functionality as basically every other editor has with tapeless footage. Shoot the footage, plug the card into the computer, and edit. No Log & Transfer step.
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for a lot of users we'll be transcoding to a proress codec for better editing flow and color grading strength. but for quick stuff it will be nice to just drag and drop.
 
Kholi said:
Okay... so those who are unfamiliar will know...

the 7D is pretty much right on with the Sensor Size of say, the RED. And RED is around S35mm size, the same size frame that nearly everything is shot on that you watch in theaters. Full Frame is not the current acquisition standard in Cinematography.

By acuiring images with 7D's image sensor you will be immediately within range of reproducing the same cinematic characteristics that everyone has been striving toward for so many years. Pulling focus @ Stops of 2.8 will be simple for the practiced focus puller. And even wide open at 1.4 it's not too difficult at all.

DOF, Angle of View, Field of View will be plenty good for this stuff. It's a very happy medium between everything, and works very well.
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So that's what everybody and Barry Green is so happy about !
Kholi/ or any serious videographer how fast can you get your hands on one of these ? I believe your test footage might to the 7d justice . And make me order one just before december :)
 
Well, the GH1 already accomplished most of that, the sensor size is nearly the same, so therefore you get all that goodness.

The excitement (to me, anyway) about the 7D is: higher bitrate codec, and true native 1080/24p recording so no pulldown, plus NTSC/PAL switchability from the get-go so you get a few more variable frame rates. And the hope that it'll have 5DMkII-caliber sensitivity. If it can pull all that off with GH1-level jello, it'll be a huge winner. If it has 5DMkII jello, then it becomes just another contestant and you at that point have to pick your compromise.
 
Everts said:
So that's what everybody and Barry Green is so happy about !
Kholi/ or any serious videographer how fast can you get your hands on one of these ? I believe your test footage might to the 7d justice . And make me order one just before december :)
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It's a number of things, no pulldown, 720/60p, MKii-esque image but yeah one thing I am very happy about is the APS-C sized sensor. FF wouldn't be bad if we had an in-camera crop option (Scarlet will be able to window out of Full Frame, so that's cool to have the option) then sure. But otherwise, I just want what I'm used to.

I'm on a pre-order list in Japan as well so one or other, as soon as it's available to ship I should have one.
 
LOL..you're doing the Japanese thingy again? Maybe they have a firmware to change the language to English. But it's probably all easy to figure out anyways.
 
The Bar clip 3200ISO on Galbraith´s site is very noisy but, use an option like Neatvideo and it will look even better than ISO 800 with almost no loss of detail. Try the plugin demo I´m so impressed that I will be using ISO 6400 easily for work. Will surely pick this plug up when I get the cam.

Even got rid of the microblock artifacts.
 
does it have a live hdmi out for monitoring? i've been trying to read through all the long articles, thought it would just be easier to ask here. if so...ki pro anybody?
 
OK gentleman so this maybe the next best thing , to a "real film camera " .
If so , with the correct lenses, prime, etc and Im total noob on this , how do you think it would stand against SI- 2k camera ,which ofcourse is not a "real film camera" ?
Also take in account that the final output will mostly be 16:9 Standard Def.
 
Kholi said:
Okay... so those who are unfamiliar will know...

the 7D is pretty much right on with the Sensor Size of say, the RED. And RED is around S35mm size, the same size frame that nearly everything is shot on that you watch in theaters. Full Frame is not the current acquisition standard in Cinematography.

By acuiring images with 7D's image sensor you will be immediately within range of reproducing the same cinematic characteristics that everyone has been striving toward for so many years. Pulling focus @ Stops of 2.8 will be simple for the practiced focus puller. And even wide open at 1.4 it's not too difficult at all.

DOF, Angle of View, Field of View will be plenty good for this stuff. It's a very happy medium between everything, and works very well.
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Those seem like all great things, but as I'm reading more about the low light sensitivity of the 7D by some of the pixel geeks, it seems like the 7D is falling short of the 5DII by a stop or more in the low light department. You might only be getting a camera as good as Red One in low light with the 7D instead of one that's superior to it with the 5dII. ... :-)

All of the things you mention sound like it will make the 7D a pleasure to work with, but I really, really hate to compromise image quality to get that convenience.
 
The image/colors/dof is great on this cam but the jello still kills it for me. The owl/car video looks good (like it was processed or de-jelloed)but all the other video's on vimeo ect it looks like your shooting through water or something. My $500 HV30 has less jello. Maybe I'm just picky but it drives me nuts.

I'm still happy with my HVX200a and redrock and probably wont upgrade till scarlet. And just to mention, I still haven't had anyone hire me for a professional gig requesting any of the DSLR's. Not that you couldn't use them..... its just not want people are looking for yet.

The low light on the 7D still owns any other camera out there, the only reason I would use one.
 
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Kholi said:
It's a number of things, no pulldown, 720/60p, MKii-esque image but yeah one thing I am very happy about is the APS-C sized sensor. FF wouldn't be bad if we had an in-camera crop option (Scarlet will be able to window out of Full Frame, so that's cool to have the option) then sure. But otherwise, I just want what I'm used to.

I'm on a pre-order list in Japan as well so one or other, as soon as it's available to ship I should have one.
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you like those japanese menu's don't you

I'm debating whether to get the tokina 11-16 or the EF-s 17-55 f/2.8 for the IS. I think I might have to get both.
 
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f64manray said:
Those seem like all great things, but as I'm reading more about the low light sensitivity of the 7D by some of the pixel geeks, it seems like the 7D is falling short of the 5DII by a stop or more in the low light department. You might only be getting a camera as good as Red One in low light with the 7D instead of one that's superior to it with the 5dII. ... :-)
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What the pixel geeks fail to understand is the MKII is 2 stops slower shooting equivalent "cine DOF" so if they are correct about the sensitivity that would make the 7D 1 stop faster shooting at f/2.8 instead of f/5.6 on the MKII.
 
Ian-T said:
LOL....I was expecting a Rick Roll...but that was funnier.
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Some bastard rick rolled me last night. I'm gonna stop looking at 7D clips and just get one. I've learnt my lesson wasting so much time looking at GH1 footage.
 
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