C100: XC10 or C100, advice needed.

Networker said:
Now, if something happens at NAB that makes the C100 come down in price a couple of hundred bucks or so...

I need to find a store that has them both so I can see them. Any Canon dealers in Tampa/Orlando/Jacksonville area?
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Does not look like any C100 updates at NAB....disappointing...
 
"The lack of 4k is a concern for me. I don't need it now, but I still have my DVX100B because I didn't think I'd need HD either. It's a lovely camera, a joy to work with, and with the Pelican case it is worth about two hundred bucks if the buyer has a use for the Pelican. I'm not making that mistake again."

Duly noted, but IMHO it's a bit different when you're using a camera as a tool to earn your living. Technology comes and goes so it's about finding the right tool for your current professional needs (which I'm sure you know too well as IT) I also owned a DVX100 and I made back its cost pretty quickly and then it was on to the HVX200a, etc. and each previous camera helps pay for the next. Honestly, you're never going to future proof yourself with a camera (sound gear and lights are another story) but unless you're doing high end commercial work you should be fine with HD for some time to come (most broadcasts are still in 720/1080i :)...
 
DLD said:
That ME-200 ... cube has a C100 sensor inside it.
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I kinda hope they use the same sensor in the C100 MKIII and just fully unleash it, if they put the new C300 MKII sensor in it the next C100 is going to be overpriced and crippled.
 
scorsesefan said:
" Honestly, you're never going to future proof yourself with a camera (sound gear and lights are another story) but unless you're doing high end commercial work you should be fine with HD for some time to come (most broadcasts are still in 720/1080i :)...
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True enough, but since I'm not making money with the camera, I'd like to be able to stay near the front of technology as long as possible. I got friends with 4k TVs and I'm looking at getting one myself soon (or soonish...) and I'd like to see my own work in 4k. But I may be completely out to lunch on this one. It may not matter as much as I think. And the more I look at C100 footage on Vimeo and Youtube the more I like what I see.

Maybe I should just flip a coin.
 
Networker said:
And I was all set on the (fairly) new Canon XC10. I've watched the footage, read the specs and for the most part found solutions - I think - to the most glaring shortcomings it has.


One great advantage it has is that it looks like a normal still camera. You can walk around and nobody cares. You're just taking pictures. This is important if you want to pass yourself off as a tourist at DisneyWorld....


I'm a hobbyist. One man band. ...


So, which one to get? I think I'm still leaning towards the XC10, but I'm not at all sure.

Any thoughts will be greatly appreciated.
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You have answered your question. There is a lot of hate for the XC10. However, the situations you mention is XC10 domain.

I just had a personal bitter experience of shooting B Roll for an assignment. These days with the security threats people are simply paranoid. I was shooting outside a popular mall with a C300 (barebones without a microphone and mattebox) and I was forcibly restrained by the mall security. After arguing and then finally dropping some legal language about unlawful restraint and further threats of immediately calling the police made them release me. I was told that David Headley, that terrorist-cum-rogue agent of CIA had visited mumbai and done filming to finetune the attack on his targets. So the mall guys don't want any filming even though I was on a public road. In the past I have shot B Roll with the same C300 in heavily guarded Red Fort and other places. So it was a massive shock to me about how bad the situation has become within two years. So if you are planning to get into Disney or similar places and shoot than it shouldn't be a large camera like C300/C100. XC10 will help you a lot in these places.

Maybe take a Go Pro as well.

Needs and Wants are two completely different things. There is no end to what one can want. As college kids we all had wanted the latest and hottest hollywood heroine. A look in the mirror, bank balance and other such mundane things brought us down to earth and made us get what we needed rather than what we wanted. :) Today with grey hair we are all wiser. Similarly with equipment, if you don't need the bigger C100 for your projects than getting it makes no sense. However, if you want to do things other than discreet shooting in places you mentioned, exploring other creative avenues than you can always get the C100.

Next month I am shooting a 60 second and 30 second spot with the C300. So good quality HD has got its own value and demand. 4K is yet to pick up well. So if you buy the C100 then it will be good for a few years.

All the best!
 
indiawilds said:
... I just had a personal bitter experience of shooting B Roll for an assignment. These days with the security threats people are simply paranoid. I was shooting outside a popular mall with a C300 (barebones without a microphone and mattebox) and I was forcibly restrained by the mall security. After arguing and then finally dropping some legal language about unlawful restraint and further threats of immediately calling the police made them release me. I was told that David Headley, that terrorist-cum-rogue agent of CIA had visited mumbai and done filming to finetune the attack on his targets. So the mall guys don't want any filming even though I was on a public road.
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I dropped by a local McDonald's on the 18th and saw that they don't allow any filming on the premises either. (although, if you saw their counter help, you'd never take a cap off your lens anyway ... OK, I kid) There are probably reasons beside security though. Any disturbance inside a place and it quickly gets uploaded on YouTube.
 
indiawilds said:
...I was shooting outside a popular mall with a C300 (barebones without a microphone and mattebox) and I was forcibly restrained by the mall security...
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That is indeed a scary tale. I really didn't know things had gotten this bad. Thanks for telling us.

indiawilds said:
...if you don't need the bigger C100 for your projects than getting it makes no sense. However, if you want to do things other than discreet shooting in places you mentioned, exploring other creative avenues than you can always get the C100...

All the best!
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Good points. I will keep this in mind.
 
DLD said:
I dropped by a local McDonald's on the 18th and saw that they don't allow any filming on the premises either. (although, if you saw their counter help, you'd never take a cap off your lens anyway ... OK, I kid) There are probably reasons beside security though. Any disturbance inside a place and it quickly gets uploaded on YouTube.
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This is news to me. I guess I will start looking for signs like that when I visit from now on.
 
Well, my wife solved my problem in the most simple and elegant way possible: "Why don't you just get the XC10 first, and if a month or six months or a year down the line it turns out to be inadequate for some of your projects, add a C100 to fill the gap." So that's what I'll be doing.

Thank you all for your inputs.
 
Networker said:
Well, my wife solved my problem in the most simple and elegant way possible: "Why don't you just get the XC10 first, and if a month or six months or a year down the line it turns out to be inadequate for some of your projects, add a C100 to fill the gap." So that's what I'll be doing.

Thank you all for your inputs.
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Nice. Good to have a calm objective voice...
 
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