When voting on a film...

[Lawsuit_Boy]

LMAO! Now THAT is funny.... I guess you just proved my point.
:dankk2:

Well thanks for being a brat about it. Listen pal, I didn't have time to catch them all for serious and personal reasons. I do my best to catch as many as possible, and in the past I have seen them all. The only festival I tried to enter was Lovefest and we didn't get to finish, but I still viewed and voted on most, if not all, of the entries.

I proved your point because I genuinely care about giving feedback and I feel bad that I didn't for yours. So if you're going to be a child about this, I don't think there's anything else we can do here.

 

[Rodney V. Smith]

You know I did try to get out and comment on every film last time around, but real life caught up with me, especially since I do try to be as fair as possible and offer a good honest critique. Honestly, the thing that seemed to work best was a blow by blow review as the film played. This requires at least 2 viewings of course, so my strategy this time is to watch them back to back.. one for enjoyment, and the other to write my thoughts down.

What strategies work best for the rest of you guys?

I've found that too long between viewings and something pops up that is more urgent. And then you never get around to writing that review you;ve been meaning to do for the past 5 days.... even when the fest is over, a review can still be given.

The 2 word reviews "Good job" in no way help and are so non-commital. I hope those guys are at least rating the film after viewing....

 

[Rodney V. Smith]

I proved your point because I genuinely care about giving feedback and I feel bad that I didn't for yours. So if you're going to be a child about this, I don't think there's anything else we can do here.

I wouldn't worry about it. Zaza IS a bit of a brat, but he means well. All in good fun, and not the poke your eye out with a sharp stick kind of fun either.

 

[Lawsuit_Boy]

You know I did try to get out and comment on every film last time around, but real life caught up with me, especially since I do try to be as fair as possible and offer a good honest critique. Honestly, the thing that seemed to work best was a blow by blow review as the film played. This requires at least 2 viewings of course, so my strategy this time is to watch them back to back.. one for enjoyment, and the other to write my thoughts down.

What strategies work best for the rest of you guys?

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This has always been my strategy, and possibly why it takes me so long. I'm constantly doing more than one thing at a time, so I give critique as I watch the film, and then go back and watch again to make sure my comments are valid.

It seems to make the feedback better, but I'll cover more ground with just one viewing. And apparently, I'm on some shit lists.

Puck: I don't want to be on bad terms with ZaZa, but I genuinely try, each fest, to view as many as possible, if not all of them, and vote. It's important, especially with such a flawed rating system.

And I'm preaching this more now than ever because it seems like everyone's bringing their A-game to this fest.

 

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

Not to brag but I watch and comment on all of them.
Rate them all as well.

I can understand that not everyone has the time to do so though. It sucks, but some people are busier than others. Don't take it personally.
I'm still waiting for Harris to tell me what he though of CFTFB. Or maybe I don't want to know! :evil:

MAH

 

[Rodney V. Smith]

Not to brag but I watch and comment on all of them.
Rate them all as well.

I can understand that not everyone has the time to do so though. It sucks, but some people are busier than others. Don't take it personally.
I'm still waiting for Harris to tell me what he though of CFTFB. Or maybe I don't want to know! :evil:

MAH

Mike: you;re a machine. A. Machine.

Worth emulating, yes. But you;re a machine.

 

[Lawsuit_Boy]

Not to brag but I watch and comment on all of them.
Rate them all as well.

I can understand that not everyone has the time to do so though. It sucks, but some people are busier than others. Don't take it personally.
I'm still waiting for Harris to tell me what he though of CFTFB. Or maybe I don't want to know! :evil:

MAH

Michael, I returned your PM. (and I DID vote on Calls From the Fuhrerbunker). I just probably didn't critique it.

 

[Rodney V. Smith]

It seems to make the feedback better, but I'll cover more ground with just one viewing. And apparently, I'm on some shit lists.

Puck: I don't want to be on bad terms with ZaZa, but I genuinely try, each fest, to view as many as possible, if not all of them, and vote. It's important, especially with such a flawed rating system.
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peace dude. We're all passionate about it, but some of us are disheartened by the lack of response and the sometimes cavalier attitudes of others. For us participating, we're putting alot out there. The best we can do is support each other.

 

[Lawsuit_Boy]

peace dude. We're all passionate about it, but some of us are disheartened by the lack of response and the sometimes cavalier attitudes of others. For us participating, we're putting alot out there. The best we can do is support each other.

And I completely agree. This film, though small, has taken a lot out of me and kept me away from my studies elsewhere for a while. So I certainly understand that people want the criticism.

I just figured that since I saw and voted for most of them, and everyone else made great effort to critique, I could just let it slide and get back to studying.

I vow to try harder this fest to give concise feedback on all films.

Also: is there a reason why I feel so backed into a corner right now, or is it just fear of losing acceptance around here? I guess I just want everyone to know that I respect them immensely. We're all in the same boat.

 

[Blaine]

I will watch and rate every entry. I will try and give some feedback to most of them. What I will be most concerned with will be story, acting and production value in that order, though they all play together.

I will take into consideration the technical aspects, too. But if the story, acting and production value aren't there, I don't care what camera you're using, you won't get my top score.

I pulled a JDS on this post. It was about a page long and I lost it. Damn. This will have to do since I can't remember everything I wrote in the first one.

 

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

Michael, I returned your PM. (and I DID vote on Calls From the Fuhrerbunker). I just probably didn't critique it.

LOL! No problem. I PM'd you back using one of the PM's from this morning. I think we've gone off topic. :beer:

 

[warau]

Just to add the perspective of a newer member, I wonder if a lot of people aren't like me and feel totally inadequate to critique someone else's film. I am still learning about the process and sometimes truly can't say much more than, "Good job!" :beer:

I am going to watch them all and make an effort to give some kind of intelligent comment. Might be a stretch for me though...rogar-Dum(DBG):

 

[Lawsuit_Boy]

LOL! No problem. I PM'd you back using one of the PM's from this morning. I think we've gone off topic. :beer:

Heh, a little bit. Everything was going well and then I was hit in the spine with a curve ball. Always nice to be chopped down.

 

[Rodney V. Smith]

Also: is there a reason why I feel so backed into a corner right now, or is it just fear of losing acceptance around here? I guess I just want everyone to know that I respect them immensely. We're all in the same boat.

No reason to feel backed into a corner. I'm just trying to be a voice of reason before all of the tension and stress we;ve been carrying for the past 3 months comes boiling out inappropriately... we all need to get some beer and just chill for a week (after uploading of course) and then get excited about the fest all over again.

I'll be busy this week creating some promo spots for Myspace, youtube and facebook, but that's just my way of relaxation....

 

[Rodney V. Smith]

the first critique is always the hardest one... just be honest about what you liked and the things you didn't like, well try to think of what you would have LIKED to have seen. It's an opinion and a different perspective. Helpful no matter what way you look at it.

 

[ZazaCast]

Well thanks for being a brat about it. Listen pal, I didn't have time to catch them all for serious and personal reasons. I do my best to catch as many as possible, and in the past I have seen them all. The only festival I tried to enter was Lovefest and we didn't get to finish, but I still viewed and voted on most, if not all, of the entries.

I proved your point because I genuinely care about giving feedback and I feel bad that I didn't for yours. So if you're going to be a child about this, I don't think there's anything else we can do here.

Although I do SO enjoy being called a "Brat", "Pal" and a "Child"...I really didn't mean to get under your skin. I just thought it was funny that you stated you watched, commented & voted on all the films...then changed that to missing 3 films (two of which must have been mine!). Come on... that IS funny.

I understand how life gets in the way, but there really is plenty of time to watch all the films. I also (for the last fest) created a nice PDF list I made available to everyone that listed the username, film title, rating and comment columns to make it easier. I find writing down comments and rating as I watch the film works best for me...then I spend an hour visiting the threads and leaving comments. Time management is key.

So, in my brat-child-pal voice (whatever that might be) I say, sorry I tweaked your nerve...but just think, you have time to redeem yourself by following the links to my TwilightFest enteries, watching the films and leaving me a comment or two (not that they won't be jaded by now...but what the hell)!

...and be sure to watch Puck's films...they are quite enjoyable!

 

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

No reason to feel backed into a corner. I'm just trying to be a voice of reason before all of the tension and stress we;ve been carrying for the past 3 months comes boiling out inappropriately... we all need to get some beer and just chill for a week (after uploading of course) and then get excited about the fest all over again.

I should run out and film something this week just so I can be on the same page. rogar-Smoke(DBG):

 

[Rodney V. Smith]

...and be sure to watch Puck's films...they are quite enjoyable!

Zaza says the nicest things sometimes. It's cooler when he means it, so I might have to quote you on the DVD somewhere, Zaza. :grin:

You up for shooting something quick and dirty Mike? I have a really good location in Toronto. Just used it for a music video shoot this past weekend.... Come on down! We have time...

 

[Lawsuit_Boy]

Although I do SO enjoy being called a "Brat", "Pal" and a "Child"...I really didn't mean to get under your skin. I just thought it was funny that you stated you watched, commented & voted on all the films...then changed that to missing 3 films (two of which must have been mine!). Come on... that IS funny.

I understand how life gets in the way, but there really is plenty of time to watch all the films. I also (for the last fest) created a nice PDF list I made available to everyone that listed the username, film title, rating and comment columns to make it easier. I find writing down comments and rating as I watch the film works best for me...then I spend an hour visiting the threads and leaving comments. Time management is key.

So, in my brat-child-pal voice (whatever that might be) I say, sorry I tweaked your nerve...but just think, you have time to redeem yourself by following the links to my TwilightFest enteries, watching the films and leaving me a comment or two (not that they won't be jaded by now...but what the hell)!

...and be sure to watch Puck's films...they are quite enjoyable!

Well sir, I did once watch and vote on someone else's film when they thought I didn't (not you, MAH :beer: ), so I thought it was odd that I missed yours.

I just really dislike having someone get snarky with me and try to make me look like a fool. I don't do that to people on here, and since I've been here, only one person has ever made me feel like one on here.

Just be careful in the future and try to be a little more polite. Sure, I made a mistake, but I attempted to correct it and give you the feedback you deserved (which I did). So let's leave it at this. I'll make sure to get to the next film soon and give you feedback. But I am in school and have a lot of work to do on top of finishing a film, so it might have to be tomorrow. But I left you what I thought was a fine response to Twisted. So check it out if you're actually interested.

 

[ZazaCast]

Just be careful in the future and try to be a little more polite. Sure, I made a mistake, but I attempted to correct it and give you the feedback you deserved (which I did). So let's leave it at this. I'll make sure to get to the next film soon and give you feedback. But I am in school and have a lot of work to do on top of finishing a film, so it might have to be tomorrow. But I left you what I thought was a fine response to Twisted. So check it out if you're actually interested.

I am nothing if not polite (I believe I was the first one to welcome you to this fest in your film thread) and gladly accept your apology. I also value your critique of my films as I do all others.

I'm really looking forward to your film. Do well at school cause it only gets crazier once you're out. I know about pressure. I'm a single Father caring for my 2 daughters (one in college, one in High School...talk about pressure!), dealing with the ex-wife, running my own business and watching my retirement disappear with the stockmarket (and the ex!)...and if you can believe it, make films for fun.

Hang in...you're doing fine...:beer: