We are cheating for IBC...

Jannard

Red Leader
OK. We are going to cheat at IBC. I said it in public. We will, unless a major castastrophy happens, show 4k footage at IBC. But it really won't be 4K. We will cheat. It is really 5K scaled down to 4K. We have a true sensor size of 4900x2580. So actually we will have to scale it down to 4K for presentation. This is news we wanted to keep secret but I couldn't sleep at night. Now I feel free.

Please remember that we will have had only one month to get the full images up off the sensor, characterize the sensor, color correct the sensor, shoot, compile, and edit. Then package for a 4K projector we have never seen.

I hope everyone will forgive us...

BTW, when the camera ships, the largest size available to shoot is 4520x2540.

Jim
 
Did somebody order extra sensor by mistake? 4900? My brain can not handle that much. I need an upgrade.
 
4900? The sensor just got bigger?!!

I remember reading a quote from RED a while back about the sensor design allowing you to see outside the frame. Maybe that's the reason for the extra size?

By the time it ships it will probably have a 14900x12580 sensor with depth channel mapping, the ability to see through walls and back in time by up to fifteen years (thirty years in windowed mode).
 
ZaneIsNumber1 said:
By the time it ships it will probably have a 14900x12580 sensor with depth channel mapping, the ability to see through walls and back in time by up to fifteen years (thirty years in windowed mode).
Nah, they are surely holding that technology back so they can sell the "upgrades" in a few years! Stupid camera companies, always limiting us...

;-)
 
With an oversize sensor, might it be possible to have built-in image stabilization? Jim?
 
Most sensors use the outer edge to gather important information about white balance and other imaging charachteristics. At least in DSLRs which seem to be analogous to alot of Red's core design pricipals. Although digital capture, being a first generation lossless system seems to handle up-rezing much better than scaned film does. So I would not be surprised if, like 1080P being up-rzed to 4k for Star Wars's Imax releases, Red's 4k couldn't be used with spectacuar results when up converted as well.
 
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Oh' my god this is so unreal...Wow!
Question> Is that the size of the sensor (4900 x 2580) that will go in the camrea that ships ,and can only shoot (4520 x 2540) max? Or the camera ships with a smaller censor? Cause if your saying we can get, oversampled 4k scaled footage out of are camera? I'll pass out!
 
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Jim That is just crazy. You have to have some kind of screening event with a 4K projector here in the states so us pour SOB's that can't make it to IBC can just dream of seeing it. Congrats I think you guys have created a monster, A monster that is going to take over the world of production in all forms.
 
ZaneIsNumber1 said:
...I remember reading a quote from RED a while back about the sensor design allowing you to see outside the frame...

This is what occured to me as well and makes the most sense. Until all the electronics is in place for mapping the different regions, they're just going to have to put up with raw 5K samples and then reduce them way way down to a measly 4K!

Bwah ha ha ... 5K raw! Its incredible and delightful at the same time. :Drogar-BigGrin(DBG)

Can anyone say "Use Overscan Mode"!
 
Com'on Jim, how about a single frame grab for those who can't afford to go to IBC?

So, who does Lucas think of the camera? ;)

..and John, there's nothing wrong with Natalie Portman. I mean, I dated her a few times and she seems like a nice person. :)
 
OK, without doing any math(s), am I right in thinking that we'd be able to shoot 4520p, which would give us a near-enough full 4k image when converted from RAW, and STILL be able to see around the edge of the frame whilst shooting?
 
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