DarkMatter
Veteran
The main problem is that they are both offering the same thing 1080p, and making people think they are two separate things, what a stupid mess. Greedy ba#$&^%$.
Transformers
- Thread starter Batutta
- Start date
I think you might be stealing a few bases to get from this announcement to "greedy ba#$&^%$."
Capt Quirk
Veteran
I'd say it was a fair assessment regardless 
tmnt
King of Australia
Right on! Ghost Rider sucked the most ass of any recent film. I saw it at the cinema and almost walked out and that's saying something cause I'm cheap.
Watched Transformers again the other night and liked it even more. I thought, as a whole it really hit the mark. I even got a transformers tatt the other day...
... (speechless...)
DarkMatter
Veteran
If they weren't greedy then they would have come together on a unified format instead of.... Well this last announcement was made after a 150 million dollar deal a (payoff) by HD DVD. They don't care about the consumer it is obvious! if they have all the eggs in their basket (one side or the other) they can force the others out of business and claim all sales.
So . . . any time there are competing formats, it's an attempt to screw the consumer?
Right.
DarkMatter
Veteran
Huh?
Consumers don't want to be in the middle of the war. This should have been flushed out before either format hit the stores. But maybe you are right!
RE1000
Well-known member
post a pic! I met someone with a decepticon symbol one a few years back, i wanted one too.
That doesn't make any sense. I don't see how giving consumers more choices is putting them "in the middle of the war." Two competing formats are for sale, and it's the consumer who decides which one will prevail. They're not victims; they're the arbiters.
You're more or less saying that whenever new products are released, companies should collude together and release them in only one form before the first one is ever sold.
Thought experiment time: suppose they did this. Would you not then be decrying your lack of "choice"? And what happens if they get together, do as you say, and then they pick a different format from what you would have preferred? What would you say then?
Capt Quirk
Veteran
Let's look at it on a smaller scale... You love to drink Pepsi. Everyday on your way home from wherever, you stop at 7/11 and buy a 12 pack. All of a sudden, Coke has made a deal with 7/11, but they can only sell Coke now. You decide Screw 7/11, there is always another store. But Coke has made the same deal. Pretty soon, all you will find is Coke. Do they care if you like Pepsi? No. Do they care that Pepsi is hurting now? Yes. Why are they in the soft drink business? To make money, not encourage free trade and prosperity.
To quote John Belushi, "No Coke. Pe'si."
But what you're asking is for, before any Coke or Pepsi is ever sold, for Coke and Pepsi to get together and release only Poke. Or Cepsi. Only one cola, ever. If you wanted Pepsi, you're screwed. If you wanted Coke, you're screwed.
If enough people want Pepsi, Pepsi will remain on the market.
Besides, I go into McDonald's, there's never any Pepsi to be found. I go into Pizza Hut, there's never any Coke. My life as of yet has not been destroyed by either circumstance.
If enough people want Pepsi, Pepsi will remain on the market.
Besides, I go into McDonald's, there's never any Pepsi to be found. I go into Pizza Hut, there's never any Coke. My life as of yet has not been destroyed by either circumstance.
Last edited:
Captain Pierce
Veteran
Where I think the soft drink analogy break downs, though, is that you don't have to pay $500 - $1000 for a cup to drink your Coke or Pepsi. And if you can't find Coke anymore, you don't have to pay another $500 - $1000 for a new cup for Pepsi.
They're not doing it with the intention of screwing the customers, of course, just the intention to make money--but that doesn't change the fact that anybody who buys the "wrong" format is going to get screwed. Sooner or later, that player's going to die (and I'm guessing it'll be more like "sooner") and you'll have a bunch of $40 coasters for your home theater... Personally, I think they'd be making more money (at least in the short term) if they had agreed on a single format, because then less people would be waiting for a winner to buy, but then again I'm not an economist, nor do I play one on the Internet...
And if you can't find Coke anymore, you don't have to pay another $500 - $1000 for a new cup for Pepsi.They're not doing it with the intention of screwing the customers, of course, just the intention to make money--but that doesn't change the fact that anybody who buys the "wrong" format is going to get screwed. Sooner or later, that player's going to die (and I'm guessing it'll be more like "sooner") and you'll have a bunch of $40 coasters for your home theater... Personally, I think they'd be making more money (at least in the short term) if they had agreed on a single format, because then less people would be waiting for a winner to buy, but then again I'm not an economist, nor do I play one on the Internet...
Capt Quirk
Veteran
Not your life, and not because of a .50 can of soda, but what about the folks who spent between $200 and $1000 for a Bluray player. All that money to watch the "New wave of Hi Def video", and all of a sudden, you can't watch the movies you want, because the studios have decided to step in and make your choice for you. It isn't just a matter of wide screen or full screen, you now have to go out and spend another large chunk of change on a different player.
It was your analogy, dude.
Those who buy the "wrong" format will be no more "screwed" than those who bought Betamax VCRs, 8-track tape decks, laserdisc players, 8-inch floppies, or any other failed format . . . it'll only mean that they backed the wrong horse, and that's life.
Besides, there will be no "coasters" as long as you still have your player.
Those who buy the "wrong" format will be no more "screwed" than those who bought Betamax VCRs, 8-track tape decks, laserdisc players, 8-inch floppies, or any other failed format . . . it'll only mean that they backed the wrong horse, and that's life.
Besides, there will be no "coasters" as long as you still have your player.
That's the peril of early adoption. It's infinitely preferable to having only one format dictated from on high. Neither format was universally supported, so anyone buying early knew the risks.
Tom Marshall
Actor!!!!!!
That would make a great commercial...
MOM
Hey honey, junior said his first word!
C.U. on kid.
KID
Transfabbas.
DAD
Wow. That's amazing!
C.U. on kid again.
KID
Otamus Prah.
Close up of parents with their jaws wide open.