The EVF answer? TVLogic EVF035W-3G

Duke M. said:
Man did you miss the sarcasm on that one Steven. LOL They are well know to use them. :)
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Sorry Duke, English is my second language:happy:
In any case, HDMI is here to stay as long as we use HDSLRs with HDMI out only... I am looking forward taking that 1D "c" for a ride next fall...
 
dtwdit said:
I talked with TV Logic this morning about this EVF and their OLED monitor. The post at Able is not as clear as it should be. This EVF is made by a company in the the Netherlands called Alphatron. It is not technically a TV Logic product. And quite possibly is still a prototype. After my conversation with TV Logic I get the feeling that it might not be released until after NAB. Nevertheless it is still intriguing. I keep hoping that Sony will just introduce there own similar to the HDVF-C35W that is on my 900 wasting away. I know there is an adapter at Able to use it on the F3 but without zebras etc it would be a monitor not a viewfinder.
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It is a contract commissioned product by Alphatron but is manufactured by TV Logic. Alphatron saw the need and put up the money to make the product happen. TV Logic is the phyial manufacturer, but the device is only sold through Alphatron and it's chosen dealers.

This does not make it a lesser product in any way. The TV Logic quality and functionality will be there -- that's why Alphatron went to TV Logic.

It is certainly expected to ship prior to NAB, in quantity.
 
And what about end-user downloadable firmware updating?

I've got to say, I haven't really been tempted by any of these viewfinder thingies, not the Z-finder stuck on a DSLR, not the Cineroid, not the Zacuto EVF, I briefly thought about the SmallHD DP4/EVF, but haven't bothered with any of them. But this one seems really, really appealing. Granted it's 2x the price of most of the others, but I'm definitely keeping my eye on it. (ooh, a double...)
 
Mitch Gross said:
It is a contract commissioned product by Alphatron but is manufactured by TV Logic. Alphatron saw the need and put up the money to make the product happen. TV Logic is the phyial manufacturer, but the device is only sold through Alphatron and it's chosen dealers.

This does not make it a lesser product in any way. The TV Logic quality and functionality will be there -- that's why Alphatron went to TV Logic.

It is certainly expected to ship prior to NAB, in quantity.
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Right... Alphatron EVF manufactured by TV Logic.

That makes it an Alphatron EVF and not a TV Logic EVF that's all.

It could be easily misinterpreted if it isn't stated clearly.

Just like the original post here believed it was a TV Logic EVF and so did I until I talked with TV Logic directly.

No questioning of the quality or anything like that.

Making it clear exactly what the product is.
 
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Question to Rene from Alphatron...

Are you going to adding the software scopes (histogram, vectorscope, RGB parade...) that TVLogic have on their monitors? People who have their eye on TVLogic gear are drawn to it for a few things, not the least of which is the software scopes they include in most of their monitors.

-Andrew
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Steadistone Productions
 
Hi Rene, and welcome to the forum! Thanks for registering and being available to answer our members' questions.

I definitely am interested in one of these, and I will totally echo Andrew Stone's questions. The presence of software scopes would be a major factor in a purchase decision for me. Please let us know if it will have a waveform, vectorscope (with proper 2x magnification mode for use with DSC charts), RGB parade, false color, all that good stuff...

On the other hand, congratulations and kudos to you for including both SDI and HDMI, including a USB port for (presumably) end-user firmware updating, and for including a DC jack with a wide voltage range so that (presumably) someone with a battery like this can simultaneously power their camera and the viewfinder.

A couple of other questions: does it support 1080/24PsF? Does the HDMI input loop through to SDI output? Does the SDI input loop through to HDMI output? And, of course, when will it be available?

Like I say, I'm pretty much sold if it has the scopes. Thanks for any additional info you can provide.
 
Barry_Green said:
Please let us know if it will have a waveform, vectorscope (with proper 2x magnification mode for use with DSC charts), RGB parade, false color, all that good stuff... Thanks for any additional info you can provide.
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Barry thank you for indicating my omission of the 2 times magnification option on the vectorscope. Without that the single biggest use of scopes would be gone. TVLogic have built incredible mindshare with pro camera operators by including this functionality on their midrange to higher end monitors. Hopefully they will keep up the tradition they have established... even if Alphatron is a licencee, hopefully they will have access to the TVLogic scope functionality in producing their product.

Like many, I've adopted a SmallHD DP4 EVF as my viewfinder. Lots of great things about it. HDI-SDI connectivity isn't there but it isn't a deal breaker as the monitor/EVF is pretty darn good. Clarity, focus assist, peaking and false color make it a joy to work with but if given the opportunity to get an EVF with HD-SDI and scopes (with 2x vectorscope magnification), I wouldn't hestitate to get the TVLogic/Alphatron EVF. For simply HD-SDI connectivity... not so sure.
 
One issue I hope they correct over the TV logic 5.6"
It needs more function buttons to quickly switch between false color, waveform, etc. Even more important on an EVF
 
Sorry, very larte reply, I could not log in! We will hopefully have a working EVF next week and will be testing at Abel/ Mitch. The basic difference between the 056wp and the EVF in software is only that the vectorscope and waveform will not be there. There are 4 pre-settings. Yes, the unit can receive updates via the usb and next to that is connector for calibration. Yes it is 1080p and 3G, and you can go HDMI in and HDSDI out, so is also a converter. We are designing together with Genustech a sprofessional bracket to really use it as a viewfinder! You can see this all at NAB. If you want to get your hands on one be quick to order as the first 3 production badges are sold out! Abel will receive significant stock, Filmtools can also deliver?

If there are any more questions please let me know.

Rene
 
Has anyone heard any updates on this? Abel told me May, but it's like...almost mid June now. Does this product actually exist?
 
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