t2i vs 7D vimeo

Very cool, looks practically identical with less/worse controls and less weight. A much better Scarlet hold me over since you sink less cash into it.

On the skew, it really doesn't seem different, but if there is a difference you are right it might favor the T2i... the only way to know is to set the cameras on one tripod at equal distances from the head, with the same lenses, and pan them together. It really doesn't seem worth the test though, they do seem to be nearly identical.
 
USLatin said:
It really doesn't seem worth the test though, they do seem to be nearly identical.
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Which is really all that matters. If one is slightly better then another the audience will never know. It's like comparing TV's side by side in the store, even if there is a clear difference, once you take one of them home it no longer matters, that's the only one you'll see.
 
If I ended up shooting a project on a 7D I would get a T2i to shoot along side in a heart-beat.

Same camera, just less controls.
 
anyone know about the HDMI output to a external monitor? Does it display the full 16 by 9 or is it cropped like the 7d?
 
Neil Burner said:
anyone know about the HDMI output to a external monitor? Does it display the full 16 by 9 or is it cropped like the 7d?
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Ohhh... if the HDMI output where better I'd sell the 7D and get a T2i in a heart beat. That would be hilarious, and huge. HDMI capture has less moire and you can get higher color space, right?

Someone check that right away pls!
 
USLatin said:
If I ended up shooting a project on a 7D I would get a T2i to shoot along side in a heart-beat.

Same camera, just less controls.
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Exactly. This will make my documentary work better. With my budget, the 7D is my only camera - and the T2i will make a nice B-Cam. Then again - with rumors of a new DSLR coming from Canon later on the in year, it's hard for me to decide whether I'd like to invest in a sub $1k camera or just save it for something else that'll eventually come out with what a lot of us are looking for (scarlet like features). HDSLR market is moving too fast for me!
 
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Yeah, it is moving fast. I too am wondering if i should pick it up as a B camera, or just wait, because i have a 7D and it's great.

Probably save the grand and invest towards something else. Or maybe make the jump to scarlet and spend 10k on the unit.

Regarding Jello, they look identical to me. the 7D is framed a little higher so we get a bit more of the vertical lines, where as the T21 is framed lower so we see less, but it's there just as much asa the 7D.
 
What about the white balance differences. The 7D has the capability of changing color temp by degrees but the t2i doesn't, is this a big deal? It seems like a great feature that I know I would use.

Roy
 
Snap judgement is it looks virtually the same, although I think the 7d looks a little better detail wise, although that might be due to a variable - focus, lens, settings etc.
 
Amuse-WS said:
Exactly. This will make my documentary work better. With my budget, the 7D is my only camera - and the T2i will make a nice B-Cam. Then again - with rumors of a new DSLR coming from Canon later on the in year, it's hard for me to decide whether I'd like to invest in a sub $1k camera or just save it for something else that'll eventually come out with what a lot of us are looking for (scarlet like features). HDSLR market is moving too fast for me!
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The key word being rumors. I wouldn't bet your documentary on it.
 
movieman711 said:
What about the white balance differences. The 7D has the capability of changing color temp by degrees but the t2i doesn't, is this a big deal? It seems like a great feature that I know I would use.

Roy
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Well with all the presets and custom (use a grey card), you can get pretty close and tweak in post with no loss in quality. However, I can see this keeping the 7D around although only for a few and not the majority.
 
USLatin said:
On the skew, it really doesn't seem different, but if there is a difference you are right it might favor the T2i... the only way to know is to set the cameras on one tripod at equal distances from the head, with the same lenses, and pan them together. It really doesn't seem worth the test though, they do seem to be nearly identical.
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This would be pretty easy to test for most people who have basic gear. Just use a hot shoe to 1/4" inch adapter to mount the T2i on top of the 7D and put the 7D on the tripod. Now either put the same lens on both if you have 2 for some reason. If not, just dial their FOVs in as close as possible and lock the zoom with some tape. Now start each camera up, same settings, and pan to your hearts content. Any frame grab should be the same slice in time with the exact same pan speed. Once someone does this nobody should have to do it again, problem solved.
 
Or grab your tripod, a piece of scrap wood, a ruler, tape, and set them side by side at equal distances from the head.
 
More than anything else, this test clearly shows that Canon's DSLR pricing structure, IMO is firmly based on stills and the video feature has no weight to them at all.

$1700 vs $799 the video capabilities the same
$1700 vs $799 the still capabilities ...

19 AF points as opposed to 9 AF points,
External flash controls as opposed to no external flash controls,
Much better burst rate ...
etc
etc
etc
 
j davis said:
more than anything else, this test clearly shows that canon's dslr pricing structure, imo is firmly based on stills and the video feature has no weight to them at all.

$1700 vs $799 the video capabilities the same
$1700 vs $799 the still capabilities ...

19 af points as opposed to 9 af points,
external flash controls as opposed to no external flash controls,
much better burst rate ...
Etc
etc
etc
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+1 It does lay it out very clearly.
 
USLatin said:
Ohhh... if the HDMI output where better I'd sell the 7D and get a T2i in a heart beat. That would be hilarious, and huge. HDMI capture has less moire and you can get higher color space, right?

Someone check that right away pls!
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The manual:

"If you connect the camera to a TV set with an HDMI cable and shoot a movie in (1920 x 1080) or (1280 x 720), the movie being shot will be displayed at a small size on the TV..."

A Shame.
 
I don't see how the HDMI out would affect aliasing and moire since that happens at the readout level. The only thing I see better with with HDMI is compression which I haven't seen too many examples of its limitations.
 
shaocaholica said:
I don't see how the HDMI out would affect aliasing and moire since that happens at the readout level. The only thing I see better with with HDMI is compression which I haven't seen too many examples of its limitations.
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It was sort of tested and there is a little weirdness (perhaps not moire to be exact) that happens (or gets augmented?) at encoding.
 
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Forget about the S35 Scarlet, you have. : )
 
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