T2i , anyone disappointed ?

Kemalettin said:
this thread made my mind confused :) lol
so should i invest more money and wait 2 months more for buying 7D or should i just order T2i.
Can anyone tell the difference between 7D and T2i?7D %40 better than T2i ?
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For video it indeed doesn't make much difference. The major onces are:
1) Build quality better on the 7D and better weather sealing
2) Battery life better on the 7D
3) 1/3 increments (more) for iso in the 7D

For photos it's a different story - the 7D is a much better choice because:
1) Better autofocus (it makes no difference for video)
2) Double the frame rate for continuous photo shooting

Subjectively, the 7D is a very nice feeling camera, the T2i less so.

Those things are very important for its intended market.
 
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If you are new to DSLR's and you are disappointed by the t2i then you would have been disappointed by the 7d as well
 
J Davis said:
If you are new to DSLR's and you are disappointed by the t2i then you would have been disappointed by the 7d as well
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How can anybody seriously be disappointed by any of these cams? When in the history of film and video did you get such great tools for that little money? Is there really anyone complaining?
 
J Davis said:
If you are new to DSLR's and you are disappointed by the t2i then you would have been disappointed by the 7d as well
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I hear what you're saying but...it's not entirely true...for me at least. I love how the t2i/7D/5Dll makes clean images but I am really liking the 1/3rd stop ISO increments in my 7D. That I would have missed if I switched cameras. Also, I have not bought an external monitor as yet but the higher resolution monitoriing capability is something I can really get used to.
 
@stip that's the title of the thread dude

@Ian The key words in what I wrote was the phrase if you are new to vDSLR's , you and I both know the limitations and work arounds.

IMO - The true value of the t2i is that you have less money invested in a camera at a time when the camera market is having such quick turn arounds its in freefall
meaning you ROI you investment quicker. I imagine it will remain this way till scarlet drops.
 
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J Davis;1953688@Ian The key words in what I wrote was the phrase [U said:
if you are new to vDSLR's [/u], you and I both know the limitations and work arounds.
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True, true...muh bad.

No mater how dissapointed some folks get I think we are in a much better position than we were in this time two years ago (more choices). Things will only get better with these DSLRs.
 
To the OP
I'm also new to the DSLR bit and coming from a dvx/hvx background so here's my take.....
I've got just a shade over 1K invested in the T2i/extra lens/ sdhc card etc. Much less than the other cameras I have (I never bought the T2i for photos, just video)

PICTURE
The picture is great for a static/tripod video. Any kind of dolly/slider / pan needs to be done a little slower than you might on a video cam. Focus seems to be a bit harder to pull off effectively (especially with a faster lens.) I bought the cheapo 50mm 1.8 for $100 and it's fantastic for static shots but the focus/DOF is very thin down at the 1.8 ish level. So it's just a style of shooting that you need to get used to. If you look at this camera like you would a film camera rather than a video camera then you'll be in the right mindset. This is probably NOT a very good run n gun type setup for anyone that isn't very familiar with what works for this cam.

Audio
I honestly didn't even look at the audio capabilities of this camera before purchasing it. I have a Marantz 660 external recorder and planned on using that for the audio end of recording. I had heard all about the crappy AGC issues and was told the bit rate was crappy etc etc. So I never even checked the audio specs. After getting the camera I realized that the audio is 16 bit 48khz. (just like my video cameras) Certainly not "hollywood" audio, but quite usable for the production stuff I do. I'm currently looking at the AGC defeat work arounds that are out there (mp3 player/tone on 1 channel) and think that this might be a cheap way to get usable audio out of this camera. (More to come on that but I "think" it might work OK)

Work flow
I don't seem to have as much of a problem as many when it comes to workflow on this cam. The SDHC card pops out of the camera and right into the card reader on the editing box, file transfer is quick and easy and my computer plays the files natively pretty well. (I have a fairly powerfull computer/ PC with CS4) I don't seem to have to convert files to any other codec prior to editing but I still wondering about some of the issues reported by other users about artifacts and blocking when you trancode to something like you tube or vimeo if you have fades and transitions etc. Workflow wise, I wish I would have purchased bigger SDHC cards initially. I got two 8 gig cards but two 16 gig cards would work better for what I do, and would improve my workflow a little more. (just because I could continue working instead of transfering files)

Lens
Looking back....... I wish I would have bought the body only without the kit lens and got the 50mm 1.8 (which I did) and something like a Tamron 17-50 VC (IS) type lens. I'm by no means an expert about lens, but I'm not totally happy with the kit lens (even though it's only $100 bucks) The 50mm, I think is great. and it's also only $100. The only thing I don't like about the 50mm 1.8 is that the new version is that the focus ring is located at the end of the lens and is very small. The older version of the same lens (same optics, I believe) has the focus ring more centrally located (easier to use for me) and a distance scale on the lens.

Now to the original question as to being disapointed........
For me, If you understand what this camera WILL do for you that a (just say HVX) cannot do and you also understand that this camera CANNOT do some of the stuff the HVX can. You won't be disapointed. It's just another tool to provide the end product. Here's my quickie list.

Bad Stuff........ (as seen from a video camera guys point of view)
Battery doesn't last too long.
Audio needs to be worked to get it right
Video clips are limited to 12 minutes

Good Stuff.......
All the different frame rates/sizes that I need/want
Awesome picture
DOF is now something I can get without having to jump through hoops of fire with the vid cam
Great friggin picture
Cheap SDHC cards for files
Awesome/great image
Oh, and it has a great image even at < $1k

Oh I think not only am I NOT disappointed but I will probably be buying a second T2i shortly for a bi weekly TV show I do.


Hey! Mister Canon designer/engineer guy.........
If you're reading this..........
Please take a T2i and modify it to....
1) Have a battery that is 3 times as large, and will last 3 times as long.


2) Make it so I can press record and have it record till I press "don't Record no more"
(even if I forget and go to lunch, when I get back from lunch I want it to still be recording
till my card fills up. OK?)

3) Somehow (I'll leave it up to you) get rid of the new 3 inch LCD and put a LCD on the back
that is 5 to 6 inches and 1920 x 1080 pixel resolution. (I know thats a pain in the ass, but
just do it)

4) Allow me to turn off the AGC and have a volume adjustment for the external Mic.

5) Make that ***** in our finance department, (I think her name is Melissa) make her fall down
the stairs and.........oh never mind, that's not really your business anyway........

When you're all done with these mods, email me, I will send you a check for twice the current cost of a T2i.
 
I bought the T2 for video, but it's actually a better still camera that I expected. Even with the cheap 18-55mm lens AF is fast enough and with all the shooting options it hasn't missed a shot yet out of a few thousand. My only complaint is too much time to edit all the stills it generates.
Over all it's a great deal for under a grand.
 
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