C200: SSD adapter for the C200

I doubt the C200 will record with the door open. On the mkii the doors click shut... I think on the Ursa, the card slots are just open without a door (and a push button to eject card).

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The door on the C200 has a small spring and pin, same as the door on the 5D MKIV. It is easily detachable. All someone needs to do is fabricate and or 3D print a door with the cable in place or a pass through, either with the pin lockout. That's far as the door. As far as the pin outs, protocols or other check sum issues with substituting an SSD for a CFast 2.0 card, I will leave that to people much smarter than me, I don't get how all of that handshake works. The question would then become, where would a handheld friendly, neat, and tidy cabling solution and mounting location be on such a small camera body?
 
puredrifting said:
The door on the C200 has a small spring and pin, same as the door on the 5D MKIV. It is easily detachable. All someone needs to do is fabricate and or 3D print a door with the cable in place or a pass through, either with the pin lockout. That's far as the door. As far as the pin outs, protocols or other check sum issues with substituting an SSD for a CFast 2.0 card, I will leave that to people much smarter than me, I don't get how all of that handshake works. The question would then become, where would a handheld friendly, neat, and tidy cabling solution and mounting location be on such a small camera body?
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I think that question is more important because if it becomes unwieldy then you can't handhold.
 
On URSA, Tom Antos Velcro'd the SSD to the back of the battery. It seemed fairly compact.

BTW, the parts for the CFast 2.0-to-SSD contraption are like $80 retail, so a $600 price tag seems a bit excessive.
 
TheDingo said:
For some the question might be, "Do I want to buy enough CFAST cards to store 8 hours of RAW footage ?"
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Here, here! Personally I hope that Ego Disk or Delkin or one of the other lower cost providers will make cards that can reliably function in the C200. I grilled Loren Simons at Canon the other night exactly about this. Now with Lexar going bye-bye, that leaves Sandisk only for Canon certified cards. That's called a monopoly, Sandisk will have little to no reason to decrease costs or increase capacity while holding costs. I begged Loren to report to Canon Brass that this is a huge concern with C200 buyers, we all want to get on the Cinema RAW Light bandwagon but at current costs and capacities, Cinema RAW Light may not gain a foothold exactly for the reasons theDingo mentions. I personally don't need 8 hours of storage but I definitely need 4 or 5 hours. At current costs for the Sandisks 256GB CFast cards, that is $10,864.00 for 8 hours of Cinema RAW Light storage, a bit ridiculous obviously.

Canon NEEDS to get involved and work with Ego Disk, Delkin and other lower cost CFast card providers to help them become certified and if their current cards cannot be certified, than they need to undercut Sandisk and make more reasonably costed CFast 2.0 card that will work in the C200. The C300 MKII, C400 or C500 MKII or whatever else is coming down the pike will just exacerbate this issue. Canon doesn't make media but Canon needs to work with the media manufacturers to help them come up with a reasonable cost CFast 2.0 alternative to Sandisk that is widely available and much closer to $1.00 per GB. I personally don't want to jury rig an SSD to my C200 but it may come down to that if Canon doesn't provide the thought leadership and impetus to the media manufacturers.
 
I'm not sure, but the certification thing is just this is what we tested and this is what we found to work.

Lots of cards probably work, but they don't have time to test them all.

Transcends work perfectly fine in a 1DX Mark II...I don't see why they wouldn't in the C200 and something like an EgoDisk or Delkin would. They have been around the block for a long time...
 
drummondb said:
FWIW, the Transcend CFast 2.0 CFX600 256GB seems to be working fine in my C300/II.
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How long have you been using them, have you tried the full spectrum of recording raster sizes (12-bit 2k, all of the 4k at 410 Mbps, etc.) and frame rates with them, long, continuous takes until card is full, etc.? They are cheap, CDW has them in stock for $250.00 for 256 GB.
 
NorBro said:
I'm not sure, but the certification thing is just this is what we tested and this is what we found to work.

Lots of cards probably work, but they don't have time to test them all.

Transcends work perfectly fine in a 1DX Mark II...I don't see why they wouldn't in the C200 and something like an EgoDisk or Delkin would. They have been around the block for a long time...
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I plan on buying some Ego Disk, Transcend, and Delkin cards and trying them out, putting them through their paces. A lot. I would much rather buy certified cards but at almost $700.00 ea. for 30 minutes, that isn't realistic. $250.00 to $350.00 per 256Gb is realistic for the amount of Cinema RAW Light capacity I would need.
 
puredrifting said:
How long have you been using them, have you tried the full spectrum of recording raster sizes (12-bit 2k, all of the 4k at 410 Mbps, etc.) and frame rates with them, long, continuous takes until card is full, etc.? They are cheap, CDW has them in stock for $250.00 for 256 GB.
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I haven't given them a real stress-test, no. But I have used them willy nilly and have no trouble to report. My plan is to use one of these always in tandem with an approved CFast in the other slot, always dual slot recording when possible.

When I have some free time, I'll see if I can make the card crack under pressure, and I'll report back.
 
Delkin pooped out at URSA ProRes HQ (770 Mbps), so I wouldn't bother with that brand, if I were a C200 owner. Transcend and EgoDisk seemed to work fine.

PS. If someone personally has contacts with the aftermarket accessory manufacturers such as Zacuto, Wooden Camera, Ikan, Cinevate, etc., ask them about this solution. URSA's was simple enough to be done by almost anyone. This would require more work but the sales are likely to be much higher as well.

drummondb said:
... When I have some free time, I'll see if I can make the card crack under pressure, and I'll report back.
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Remember, these cards have to maintain 1 Gbps speed, which is more or less equal to ProRes 444. If they can't hold ProRes HQ, they're no good.
 
Thanks drummondb, please do a stress test and really try to break them. Once I get my C200, I will be doing the same. Thanks for the data on the Delkins DLD, good to know, I don't want to waste my time buying then selling brands that are already known to not work. I just hope there is a reliable solution at under $679.99 per 30 minutes.
 
FWIW, there's a remote possibility that Delkin stutters only with URSA, as there's some sort of a problem with the startup/formatting times as well. IMO, tt's still risky to buy and then hope for a full refund on return but maybe some brick&mortar businesses would be willing to do the in-store test, especially if one buys several of the 256 or 512 cards.
 
DLD said:
FWIW, there's a remote possibility that Delkin stutters only with URSA, as there's some sort of a problem with the startup/formatting times as well. IMO, tt's still risky to buy and then hope for a full refund on return but maybe some brick&mortar businesses would be willing to do the in-store test, especially if one buys several of the 256 or 512 cards.
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That's what Amazon is for ;-) Buy it, use it a few days, if it's choking, return it.
 
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