Sony Vegas Pro 10

If you didn't get the email announcing the $139.95 upgrade price and don't see the price on the website a quick call to SCS Customer support works great. It only took me about 45 seconds to get the special upgrade pricing. As long as you have a version of Vegas Pro registered with Sony they'll give you the $139.95 price. BTW: The upgrade price is good until Nov 30th.
 
rich_r said:
If you didn't get the email announcing the $139.95 upgrade price and don't see the price on the website a quick call to SCS Customer support works great. It only took me about 45 seconds to get the special upgrade pricing. As long as you have a version of Vegas Pro registered with Sony they'll give you the $139.95 price. BTW: The upgrade price is good until Nov 30th.
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Hi Everyone,

I am new to this forum and thinking of going to Sony Vegas Pro 10 so I can leverage the 64bit memory allowance. When you download at the upgrade price what is required for the actual installation? The reason I ask is that I don't own an older version, but at this price buying an older version from ebay or something might make sense.

- CD?
- Serial Number?
- Nothing, but a login that allows the download?

Thanks for the help!

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Doug
 
yatesd said:
Hi Everyone,

I am new to this forum and thinking of going to Sony Vegas Pro 10 so I can leverage the 64bit memory allowance. When you download at the upgrade price what is required for the actual installation? The reason I ask is that I don't own an older version, but at this price buying an older version from ebay or something might make sense.

- CD?
- Serial Number?
- Nothing, but a login that allows the download?

Thanks for the help!

--
Doug
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You might want to download the trial version to see if it's right for you first?
 
ZazaCast said:
You might want to download the trial version to see if it's right for you first?
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Thanks, I've tried the trial versions of Sony Vegas Pro 9, Sony Vegas Studio 10, Magix Movie Edit Plus 17, Premiere Elements 9, and CS5. I have used PS Elements 7 in the past, which sucks at AVCHD, and I have used Corel X3 which does OK. I have also tried Windows Live Movie Maker which is included in Windows Live Essentials 2011. I am pleased with the speed, but disappointed by the options and limitation of only WMV.

I own a HP Envy laptop with an i7 processor, ATI 5830 card, and 8GB RAM running W7 64-bit. I kind of prefer to stick with Adobe since I already own CS4 and Lightroom, but PSE9 still sucks for AVCHD and CS5 is expensive and really only optimized for Nvidia.

So...I am very close to buying the Magix Movie Edit Pro 17 plus which can natively edit AVCHD and is supposedly optimized for GPU encoding for about $79. Very tempting...

However, I am concerned about the general lack of support and training available for this product. No real active forums.

I tried Sony Vegas Studio 10 Production and disappointed with the lack of native AVCHD and Magix seems like the better program. However, the Pro version with upgrade could almost be justified for personal use. Which leads me to my question.

Sony Vegas Pro Upgrade, what is required to install the download?

- Working link? (which seems to be OK for me)
- CD?
- Serial Number?

I just need to understand the upgrade process.

Thanks,
Doug
 
yatesd said:
Thanks, I've tried the trial versions of Sony Vegas Pro 9, Sony Vegas Studio 10, Magix Movie Edit Plus 17, Premiere Elements 9, and CS5. I have used PS Elements 7 in the past, which sucks at AVCHD, and I have used Corel X3 which does OK. I have also tried Windows Live Movie Maker which is included in Windows Live Essentials 2011. I am pleased with the speed, but disappointed by the options and limitation of only WMV.

I own a HP Envy laptop with an i7 processor, ATI 5830 card, and 8GB RAM running W7 64-bit. I kind of prefer to stick with Adobe since I already own CS4 and Lightroom, but PSE9 still sucks for AVCHD and CS5 is expensive and really only optimized for Nvidia.

So...I am very close to buying the Magix Movie Edit Pro 17 plus which can natively edit AVCHD and is supposedly optimized for GPU encoding for about $79. Very tempting...

However, I am concerned about the general lack of support and training available for this product. No real active forums.

I tried Sony Vegas Studio 10 Production and disappointed with the lack of native AVCHD and Magix seems like the better program. However, the Pro version with upgrade could almost be justified for personal use. Which leads me to my question.

Sony Vegas Pro Upgrade, what is required to install the download?

- Working link? (which seems to be OK for me)
- CD?
- Serial Number?

I just need to understand the upgrade process.

Thanks,
Doug
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I didn't upgrade yet , so I can't tell you what the process is but, I would guess once purchased, you get a link sent that takes you to your download.
You download the file and run it... the installer opens and there you have it. (there will be a serial number in the email)

As long as you have a legit version of the program and it's been registered...shouldn't be a problem.
Give them a call and ask:

800.577.6642 (toll free)
8:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. CST, Monday through Friday
 
I haven't upgraded yet but previous upgrades required only a serial number. I have heard though that this offer is only valid for people who have previously registered their product with Sony, still if you give them a call they might give it to you - otherwise $239 is a bloody good price.
 
I just made the leap-- purchased the Sony Vegas Pro 10 upgrade on disc (delivered by mail) for a total (including $10 shipping) of $160. The upgrade purchase also includes a free download of Sony Soundforge Studio, the Vocal Eraser plugin (download), and the Sony 1001 sound effects. After a tax write off it really brings the price down to a real no-brainer purchase. I have been using Vegas Pro 8.1 so to now upgrade to 10 Pro is a nice jump, should last at least 2-3 years since it can edit 4k, author and burn blu ray, etc. Anyhow, just sharing my purchase decision in case it helps anybody decide. I opted for delivery on DVD for Vegas, I always like to have something tangible in case there is a dispute over legal ownership on such a major product like that, etc.
randall
 
KMR said:
Aren't the freebie downloads a choice of any ONE, not all of them?
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Whe I purchased the upgrade, I got SoundForge Audio Studio 10 for free too (yes!) and was also able to choose from several additional freebies (choose just one): the Vocal Remover plugin for Soundforge, seemed logical (although when I tried it on a movie soundtrack clip to remove the actors talking so I would just have the soundtrack music, it did not perform anywhere near my expectations-- so much for having the soundtrack to study for music composition [unavailable for purchase, I wanted the instrumental (not pop rock vocal) music soundtrack for I Know What you Did Last Summer). But then once I checked out with the purchase, I received links to that plugin AND the 1,001 sound effects (which I do not really need, I already had that from some other Sony products, ACID Pro I think). But yeah there were like 3 or so choices to pick from, I think one of the other choices was a 60 day license (what good is 60 days?!) for some particle illusion software or plugin or something like that.

With the free Soundforge Audio Studio 10, free additional choice, and (if you do not already have it) the 1001 sound effects, it seems like a heck of a deal for $150 or so to upgrade to Vegas Pro 10.
 
Seriously this looks like a great deal. $130-$150 to upgrade? Please enlighten me as I must be missing something...

I shoot on an HMC150 (previously a DVXuser) and I have been editing on Vegas since the beginning. I am currently using 8.1 and it is time to make the jump. (Win7, Quadcore, so forth) I am either going to upgrade to 10 (the obvious choice) or go to Adobe.

Here's my thing. I LOVE Vegas. I love the layout, have been using it for years to record MUSIC since its so damn powerful. What am I missing from Adobe or the other suites? Amazing special effects? Ability to work with Protools sessions?

Please help me out as I am on the verge of upgrading to Vegas 10 and I genuinely don't see a reason why I shouldn't.

Note: Funds are not a problem. My wife and I use Photoshop, Illustrator and Lightroom daily. The other Adobe software programs are not a part of our workflow.
 
One thing kind of nice is that I downloaded the fully functioning 30 day trial of Vegas Pro 10.0, installed it. Then after a couple of weeks of playing with it I ordered Vegas 10 Pro (I opted for delivery by mail on a disc, total cost $150 [$140 for disc version plus $10 shipping, and I think I had in the next day, maybe took two days at most to arrive, very speedy delivery from ordering to my mailbox). Well, once i received the disc in the mail I just used the serial number that came with it and gave that info to the trial version and I was good to go, I did not even have to install the program off the disc I received.
 
David Jimerson said:
For $130, there's really no reason not to.
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Thats exactly how I feel. Vegas just doesn't get much love these days. Seriously, what am I missing? It works great, has about as straight forward a workflow as is possible (to my eyes) and can render out to any format possible. As someone making the transition to doing videography fulltime, is there anything I am going to regret about not moving to FCP or Adobe or Avid... so forth...

And Randall I'm with you. I'm running the trial right now and if I make the jump will just go ahead and buy the DVD to have a physical copy at my shop.
 
Just remember that $130 is for an upgrade, so be sure you check the upgrade requirements. I already had Vegas Pro 8 so was eligible. I find Vegas intuitive and user friendly, and powerful, and I figure hey Sony owns half of Hollywood and the music industry so they must have access to quite a stash of software code for video and audio to put into consumer software like Vegas for now and a long time to come. :)

Also, I am rendering a two hour HD as I type this post, and all six cores on my AMD six-core cpu are happily busy.

HotConductor said:
Thats exactly how I feel. Vegas just doesn't get much love these days. Seriously, what am I missing? It works great, has about as straight forward a workflow as is possible (to my eyes) and can render out to any format possible. As someone making the transition to doing videography fulltime, is there anything I am going to regret about not moving to FCP or Adobe or Avid... so forth... And Randall I'm with you. I'm running the trial right now and if I make the jump will just go ahead and buy the DVD to have a physical copy at my shop.
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I'm with you. I've been using Vegas 8.1 (love the 64bit) on my Dell quad-core (i7) and 6gb ram. Installed the demo earlier this week and love the 'same ol' Vegas. Seems like much of the improvements are in the backend, since AVC runs like a charm, and not just in a '1 camera, 1 audio track' sort of way. I really want to avoid transcoding if at all possible.

I'm sticking with Vegas unless someone can sell me a different NLE as superior. Unlike the audio world where Protools is the 'standard' it seems that the video world is much more relative! What joy!
 
HotConductor said:
As someone making the transition to doing videography fulltime, is there anything I am going to regret about not moving to FCP or Adobe or Avid... so forth...
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I promised I would not bash Vegas, so I am going to stick to that promise. However, in my view, the answer to this question really rests with what you need to do full time. Last month, a person in a position similar to you asked the same question. I ran off 10 things I felt Vegas was missing that I wanted in a pro NLE, and decided to stop. I'll highlight a couple things, and you can decide for yourself.

1. The A number one reason I jumped away from Vegas this year was the lack of captioning ability. I literally had 3 years of recorded material on my shelf that I COULD NOT caption. For many this is not a big deal. But I work for the Government and it is a federal mandate that my work have captions. Vegas couldn't do it, so I couldn't deliver. I waited through version 7, version 8, and then version 9. Three years was enough for me, as some of the material had lost its relevance, and I had unhappy customers.

2. The inability to simply play back an HD track, in real time, without having to render. On big projects this was a HUGE time waster. I cut on an 64 bit 8-core machine with a Quadro FX4800 card, and 10TB of disk space local to the machine. And I had to pre-render every minute of HD video if I applied any effects. Sorry, in my book, that's not pro.

3. The inability to generate accurate color bars and tone inside the NLE. I left Premier with Version 6.0 back in 2003. That version of premier could not do HD, but it could lay down accurate bars and tone as dictated by EVERY broadcast delivery I've ever seen or done. Right now, today, in 2010, this has not been addressed. Yes, I can build that outside the NLE, but it should be absolutely TRIVIAL to do in a professional NLE.

4. The inability to lock tracks. You're working on a complex mix, and you're just adjusting one track. Vegas lacks the ability to lock the others so you don't nudge them out of place with a ripple edit or some other foolishness. I don't know how many times I've done something silly, late at night in an edit, and found out I had inadvertently nudged an upper track and my otherwise finished piece was now 6 frames off everywhere! Absolutely maddening. And made worse by making this comment on the official Vegas forum and having a user script it in half an hour. It would take the Vegas team less than an hour to fix this properly. So Vegas for 2010 has 3D, and can ingest native RED 4.5K video, but can't lock a track.


5. No effective media management. For working on big projects, this is a show stopper for most folks.


Let's do some math for a minute.

Vegas comes without a pro level titling program. Boris has plugins to work with Vegas. Few others do. And I don't mean little effects, I mean stuff on the level of AE or similar. Boris Red is their primary title tool. That's $999.

Vegas does not have a compositing program. Boris Continuum Complete is $699.

Vegas does not come with a professional level compression program. BELIEVE ME, it makes a difference. I was stunned seeing the difference. Sorenson Squeeze is $599. So lets add it up

Vegas is $599
Boris Red is $999
Boris CC is $699
Squeeze is $599

Total for an NLE that would match the Suite of products from other pro NLEs is $2896. Avid includes every one of these tools, plus others, and costs $2300. It has the best media management in the business, full metadata manipulation (Vegas offers zero), full industry compatibility for shipping off your mix to sound editors, VFX folks, etc. Vegas doesn't collaborate nicely with anyone. Avid offers the ability to work natively with most media. Vegas is getting there, but still can't handle DVCPro, DVCProHD, or AVC-Intra. Avid takes full advantage of my hardware, so I get real time playback. Even with most effects, and even with 15-20 tracks in my timelines.

Vegas does have some advantages like being able to work with 2K-4.5K media directly, whereas that's a bit more of a problem with Avid. On the other hand Avid has AMA which is the fastest native workflow on Earth as far as I can tell.


Now, Final Cut Studio offers many of these same tools, As does Premiere. All of them leverage advanced hardware. All of them come with first class color tools, compositing applications, etc. All can accept and write out multi-layer timelines in industry standard formats.

If you work alone, don't work on large scale projects, don't have need to prep for broadcast, don't have need for advanced graphics, keying, motion tracking, or other things, then Vegas should fill the bill just fine. I still use it for doing quick 30 second to 5 minute finished projects for the web. It works great for that. But if a project is going to take me more than a day to cut, or I need titles, graphics, or anything else remotely tricky, it's going to Avid every time.
 
PerroneFord said:
3. The inability to generate accurate color bars and tone inside the NLE. I left Premier with Version 6.0 back in 2003. That version of premier could not do HD, but it could lay down accurate bars and tone as dictated by EVERY broadcast delivery I've ever seen or done. Right now, today, in 2010, this has not been addressed. Yes, I can build that outside the NLE, but it should be absolutely TRIVIAL to do in a professional NLE.
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You can't generate bars in Vegas.... or did you mean HD bars and tone Premiere?
 
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