FS7: Sony rumored to release new FS7

FrameFarmMedia said:
I'd expect a new higher DR sensor in their flagships cameras before it trickles down to the lower end. The Fs7 was able to be made for a great price because it borrowed existing sony tech that had been on market for a while. I don't think you will see anything revolutionary with an FS7II just a minor update.
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Yep.
 
The locking E-mount is a nice addition. Let's hope they have a few specs being withheld for next week's release that will surprise us. If not, will probably move to the Varicam LT next year since it's everything I wanted in a camera. Heres to wishful thinking!
 
Looking at the history of the FS-series, the only camera that has gotten a second version was the FS700 that became the FS700R and the only difference was that it had the 4K update already from factory and a new kit lens (the 18-200 PZ that it should have come with from the start).
So maybe a small update like this makes sense. On the other hand, if they go through the trouble of adding extra buttons and changing the hand grip position they might as well have done a bit more... hmmm...
 
Nirv said:
Very much a MkII

http://cameratimes.org/sony-pxw-fs7-mark-ii-leaked-images-announcement-november-8-barcelona-time

Electronic Variable ND (FS5)
- 10 assignable buttons
- New Lens Lock Ring (Lever Lock Type) No rotation of lens anymore to detach.
- MPEG 2 Cache Recording
- BT 2020 Color Space
- New Arm Grip Position and Adjustments
- New 1/4 Full HD LCD (960/540) and rod ergonomics improvements
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If you look back at the past decade or so, when Sony has come out with MkII versions of the very popular cams of their day, the improvements were VERY modest. PD-150 got a fix to its audio circuitry, the EX1/EX3 got really minor fixes. The popular comment of the day was what you got was an orange band around your lens.

If these improvements are the list, given the past, folks should be quite happy with these improvements if they plan on buying an FS7 in the near future. To expect a new processor or massive new features is just not in the cards in my view. If the electronic variable ND and increased colour space is part of the improvement, buyers shoud count themselves fortunate.

However, I fully expect a wave of significantly improved cameras come April. If you look at all the incentive programs on cameras that end on March 31st, 2017, things are certainly indicating this will be the case.
 
A typical gamut comparison chart...

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It will also become increasingly important in terms of delivery specs as broadcasters and platforms move beyond Rec709.
 
Andrew Stone said:
If you look back at the past decade or so, when Sony has come out with MkII versions of the very popular cams of their day, the improvements were VERY modest. PD-150 got a fix to its audio circuitry, the EX1/EX3 got really minor fixes. The popular comment of the day was what you got was an orange band around your lens.

If these improvements are the list, given the past, folks should be quite happy with these improvements if they plan on buying an FS7 in the near future. To expect a new processor or massive new features is just not in the cards in my view. If the electronic variable ND and increased colour space is part of the improvement, buyers shoud count themselves fortunate.

However, I fully expect a wave of significantly improved cameras come April. If you look at all the incentive programs on cameras that end on March 31st, 2017, things are certainly indicating this will be the case.
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agreed with everything. I used to work a lot with the PD150 and then with the Z1. Nice to remember that... :)

On the other hand, the FS7 MKI has only 2 years and basically I saw it in the field often for about 1 year now... To think sony would rebuilt the camera from scratch (aka new sensor, color science) is a bit naive considering the F55 still waiting for the new tech.

Fs7 has great color science and a true match to the C300 MKII for a lower price and selling well. Why change that in the scheme of things now?

I bet we'll see an Fs8 probably in 2 or even 3 years depending on the competition given the price tag (and right now the only camera is the C300 MKII and I don't think canon is going to move right now...)

well, I'm happy with my fs7 so far, but the variND is such a neat add!

One thing I don't think they've changed is the cine EI with the 3 presets though. Let's see...
 
Maybe it's not a direct replacement where Sony immediately discontinues the FS7 I, but if it will be called the FS7 II then it's pretty much implied that it's replacing it, no?
 
Mitch Gross said:
One question to y'all: Who says that Sony is REPLACING a current camera model?
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But what will the price difference be and how many people would choose MKI, if they're not far apart.

And, if they are about $2,000 from one another retail, how many will go with C300 MKII, for about the same price?
 
DLD said:
But what will the price difference be and how many people would choose MKI, if they're not far apart.

And, if they are about $2,000 from one another retail, how many will go with C300 MKII, for about the same price?
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Probably the C300 MKII makes more sense if the fs7II gets the same price tag... Canon's color science out of the box is just gorgeus. For fast turnaround gigs where grading is a no no, canon is my option. If you got time in post to massage the slog3 then I would stick with the fs7II.
 
I wonder if the sensor in the FS7 II uses the same color filter array as the F55? I'm sure the FS7 II didn't inherit the global shutter-- or maybe neither. Perhaps Sony's developed a better CFA over the last 4 years that it'll use going forward with its professional S35 cameras.

The way Sony used to work wrt model updates and releases is not how it works anymore. This is true for almost every segment of consumer and professional electronics. Sony's innovations with mirrorless camera tech and the huge gains it's made with OSPDAF have come quickly and often.

I'm not saying I embrace the way things have changed (I own a 2 month old FS7 and my a6300 was just "updated" to a version that shoots 4K without overheating) but hardware is moving faster and faster. The current FS7 obviously isn't obsolete and no one is trying to make you buy the new version, but things are moving faster. It drives people like me a bit crazy, but it's also fascinating. For this reason, I wouldn't want to own a single share of Canon stock.

With competition potentially returning to the CPU market soon, really fast PCI-e SSDs becoming cheaper and common (SATA SSDs dropping "hugely" in price), and the new blazing-fast GPUs that have hit the market, some of the bottlenecks holding back what's possible with high data rate 4K (plus) cameras may start to disappear. TV's are finally here that can take advantage of 4K HDR-- and many industries other than camera manufacturers have a big financial incentive to push the tech as fast as possible.
 
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