FS7: Smallrig FS7 grip relocator for $20

Ben Scott said:
Just seen this variation on ebay

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SMALLRIG-...Adapter-with-15m-Rod-Clamp-1883-/252773724306
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This looks interesting and I may give it a try on my FS7. Can anyone tell me if the FS5 and FS7 handgrips are the same fixings, if so could I fit a smallrig 1867 FS5 rosette mount to the FS7 handgrip to use with the 1883 Handgrip adaptor/rod clamp. This looks more compact than using the smallrig 1887 FS7 adaptor that projects further out and is still awaiting delivery.
http://www.smallrig.com/SMALLRIG-Sony-FS5-Camera-Grip-ARRI-Standard-Rosette-1867.html
http://www.smallrig.com/SMALLRIG-handgrip-rosette-adapter-for-Sony-FS7-1887.html
 
Just got a tracking number from Smallrig so it's on its way.

Just as I've put my FS7 kit up for sale in the marketplace.. :(
 
Same here, I ordered 1887 in Jan and email to say been despatched, also ordered a 1883 handgrip adaptor Mid Feb which is already on its way too.
 
Mine just arrived, took me 5 minutes to fit it (as I had Caleb's mount previously).

The SmallRig mount is very solid, but I need to test it in the field for more of a rounded opinion.
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epicdream said:
Mine just arrived, took me 5 minutes to fit it (as I had Caleb's mount previously).

The SmallRig mount is very solid, but I need to test it in the field for more of a rounded opinion.
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It could be about how the perspective is distorted in this picture, but it looks like the piece offsets the grip laterally more than what I would want it to. This is important not only ergonomics wise but it also means more strain on the screws due to more leverage the camera weight creates (longer lever, more mechanical advantage). I think Caleb's very first mod which was adding a receiver rosette into the grip, while not as universal due to being just a female receiver rosette (as awfully sexist as it sounds!), was a better connection. Mine is about to arrive too, will see.
 
broughtonfilm said:
It could be about how the perspective is distorted in this picture, but it looks like the piece offsets the grip laterally more than what I would want it to. This is important not only ergonomics wise but it also means more strain on the screws due to more leverage the camera weight creates (longer lever, more mechanical advantage). I think Caleb's very first mod which was adding a receiver rosette into the grip, while not as universal due to being just a female receiver rosette (as awfully sexist as it sounds!), was a better connection. Mine is about to arrive too, will see.
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Same thoughts here about the extra leverage on the joint. Mine is also due anytime soon.
 
Now mine has arrived and I'm selling the camera. I'd give it away but I can't be bothered to even go post it.
 
Scarlet-W, and I'll probably get something little like a GH5 or similar for jobs I don't need the red for.
 
Do your fingers slip on that knurled thumb nut when meshing into the camera rosette? It does not appear to have enough "sticktion" to torque down.
Below is my original "Ben Scott" flush mount -by far the best ergonomic solution as it hugs the grip super close to the lens.

Can anyone take a measurement on this SR parts length overall?
My ratcheting Crony is .70 inch. The looks to be twice that length.

I now make a brass adaptor disc so the FS7 can use a full size (FS5 style) Crony. WAY BETTER
 

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I wish there were a simple LANC device that could replace the grip altogether. All I need it for is the grip's buttons and joystick really, not the actual grip.

The SmallRig rosette adapter came today. It attaches securely both to the grip and to rosette (the knurled knob is easy to tighten). I still think the extra leverage it creates is a problem. Perhaps an option if someone needs to attach the grip to the camera directly to eliminate the arm when it's on sticks but I have difficulty trusting it when handholding the camera. I'm afraid this goes both for this and Caleb's "crony" (or any other adapter that adds leverage because it's about the shitty thin screws size Sony chose for connection).
 
Thanks for that. I'm surprised you can get that thumbwheel absolutely tight. Can you try it with sweaty fingers for me? ;-) just kidding

I didn't make the Crony for attaching to camera rosette directly, arm killer that way, but it's nice to have if you want it. I just wanted to jailbreak the Sony EXT arm so we could decide for ourselves. I agree that Sony uses undersized, underbuilt everything but disagree that the 2.5mm screws are a cause to worry. Using a Crony puts no more stress on the fasteners than using the supplied EXT arm if I'm understanding you correctly.
 
plasticam said:
Thanks for that. I'm surprised you can get that thumbwheel absolutely tight. Can you try it with sweaty fingers for me? ;-) just kidding

I didn't make the Crony for attaching to camera rosette directly, arm killer that way, but it's nice to have if you want it. I just wanted to jailbreak the Sony EXT arm so we could decide for ourselves. I agree that Sony uses undersized, underbuilt everything but disagree that the 2.5mm screws are a cause to worry. Using a Crony puts no more stress on the fasteners than using the supplied EXT arm if I'm understanding you correctly.
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Well, it makes the "lever" longer so the leverage is greater. You even pointed out that your "crony" is shorter than the SmallRig part, I guess recognizing that it matters. I also don't understand why you are skeptical about the knob when your own design uses knurled knobs which are actually smaller therefore probably harder to tighten (and on top of it the connection is not a rosette which does not slip but a 15mm rod).

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My Crony isn't short for mechanical reasons but to keep the handgrip close to the lens for comfort.
You are right about distance. Torque = force x length. when you double the length of a lever you double the force it exerts in torque.
The male Stubclamp you show has a large thumbscrew to control the orientation of lightweight kit like mic holders and onboard monitors.
I make a female Stubber for attaching grips to rods. Different application.

Attaching a grip requires some firm torque or the grip will have an slight but annoying wobble. The thumbscrew in my clamp you show is meant to be finger tight.
But a grip connection needs to be LOCKED down. If that wheel on the SR does that- great. it's just in my experiance with knurled thumbscrews a 1:1 correlation was found between amount
of sweat on finger tips to frustrated swearing from mouth.
 
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