C100: Show us your rig...
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tobyhoffman
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This is the basis for my interview setup that I'm heading to next week. This is my first real set up and I would appreciate any feedback or suggestions to what I could add/remove/change. Thanks
Current setup includes:
Manfrotto 504HD Head with carbon fibre legs
Ninja 2 with Ultra Plus Sandisk 240gb drive
Manfrotto Super Bracket
Manfrotto Magic Arm with camera mount
SmallHD AC7
analog_addict
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I've been shooting a documentary style project for a travel promo. Handheld for 3 days, didn't use a shoulder rig and found using a loupe I didn't need one. Basically just shooting the same way I used to with a DSLR, just a little heavier!
I needed to be able to easily drop the C100 into a backpack constantly as I took part in activities (cycling etc), a shoulder rig would have taken too long to take apart constantly. The C100 was the perfect little camera for this job!
Also you'll notice my Velbon Sherpa 630 tripod and Yunteng video head. It's very lightweight meaning I could strap it to my bag while cycling and walking through rough terrain. My big Manfrotto would not have been suitable at all.
I also used the fantastic Tamron 17-50mm for every shot!
I needed to be able to easily drop the C100 into a backpack constantly as I took part in activities (cycling etc), a shoulder rig would have taken too long to take apart constantly. The C100 was the perfect little camera for this job!
Also you'll notice my Velbon Sherpa 630 tripod and Yunteng video head. It's very lightweight meaning I could strap it to my bag while cycling and walking through rough terrain. My big Manfrotto would not have been suitable at all.
I also used the fantastic Tamron 17-50mm for every shot!
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QuickHitRecord
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I think that I have this same loupe and I might have to try that. Is this the LCDVF 3C?
Also, it looks like you using the magnetic strip to secure it. Do you have any concerns about being able to remove it from the screen?
I think that I have this same loupe and I might have to try that. Is this the LCDVF 3C?
Also, it looks like you using the magnetic strip to secure it. Do you have any concerns about being able to remove it from the screen?
analog_addict
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It's the LCDVF BM. The magnetic frame is very strong. No concerns about removing it, prying it off and then using a bit of alcohol to remove and sticky residue should be OK.
The BM is the correct size for the C100 screen. I think the 3C might work though.
analog_addict
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Here is my cheap EVF mount solution. A SmallRIG cheese rod and simple ball mount. Obviously the Zacuto rail helps but you could just add a rod clamp to the standard hot shoe.
KarlSutton
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I'm seeing a lot of pictures with the 70-200 2.8 attached to the camera - do you need any additional support for that lens? Can you mount the camera to the tripod & hang the lens off of the camera?
I have this configuration, but I actually mount the lens to the tripod with the C100 hanging off the back. I make sure the lens mount is as close the camera body as possible; this seems to balance out the center of gravity a bit better. I also wedge a little bit of foam packing between the camera and the back of the tripod for a little extra camera support. I have a Ninja Blade mounted on top of the C100. Aside from that, no additional weight. This is for the 70-200 2.8 without IS.
opinions seem to vary. I know one guy who strongly believes in supporting heavier long lenses like that one and another guy whose c300 has some issues with the mount after several years of use without support. on the other hand ive asked several other guys amd they think its unnecessary for that lens and have NOT had any issues after years of use with no support. so who knows?
ParagonFilmworks
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Done this for quite sometime on an original C100 and now my C100 MKII. Don't plan to do anything different. Mileage may vary but I would suggest using basic care--it's what I've done for years with no issues.
puredrifting
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Had a good conversation with Canon at the Canon Hollywood Center about this. In a way, the 70-200 variant lenses represent no problem with any C series camera mount. Where the problems enter the picture is where external forces add huge amounts of stress and torque to the lens and camera mount through inertial leverage. For instance, mount a 70-200 2.8 IS II to a C300 MKII. No problem on a tripod, Canon even told us that. Problem is when you are shooting the same rig, run and gun and pick up the camera and lens, which is mounted to your tripod and throw the whole thing over your shoulder and go hiking across rough ground or a field of rocks (I have done this quite a bit when shooting in Africa on sets). Then you are highly multiplying the forces of weight, torque and stress on the mount as the whole thing is bouncing along your shoulder on the tripod. Doing this without a lens support could literally break the mount and or camera housing off of the camera. I really don't see what all of the teeth gnashing is about adding a lens support to a camera like a C300 MKII. I have a small, cheap one I bought off of Amazon for $30.00, works great. When I take off the 70-200 and mount a much shorter lens, I just retract the support down half an inch and it's out of the way. Obviously, anyone mounting a cine zoom or other large lens should be using a lens support. Fast, short-length primes, even the heavier ones, probably don't need one. While they are heavy, if they are physically short, they are not generating the same kind of inertial leverage that a longer lens like a 70-200 2.8 IS II is.
The bottom line is, use common sense. If you are mounting a long, heavy lens on your camera, use a lens support. If not, don't sweat it for relatively smaller lenses like 24-70 2.8, 24-105, 17-55, it is not needed.
The bottom line is, use common sense. If you are mounting a long, heavy lens on your camera, use a lens support. If not, don't sweat it for relatively smaller lenses like 24-70 2.8, 24-105, 17-55, it is not needed.
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Doug_EX
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Or use a 70-200 f4.
puredrifting
Major Contributor
Or use a 70-200 f4.
Personally, I would still use a lems support with that lens. It's not as heavy as the 2.8 but it's still long and will still generate that torque and leverage that I mentioned. Another consideration. These days, for local shoots, I assemble the entire camera and mount the lens, Ninja Blade, etc. when I go to a shoot, it takes too long to build it on site so I bring my camera rig completely built and I know others do the same. Think about that lens and camera, riding on the floor of your vehicle or in the trunk, especially without a case (I wrap mine up in a sound blanket or some towels to protect it). Going over rough pavement/speed bumps/etc. the freeways are a MESS in SoCal. Your lens and mount are still subjected to great potential interial leverage even before I arrive to the shoot. This one works great for $17.00 https://www.amazon.com/Neewer-Profe...8&qid=1479138428&sr=8-2&keywords=Lens+support
KarlSutton
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Thanks for all the replies on the 70-200 - my new C100mkII will be here Wednesday & I'm shooting all day Saturday, looking forward to it! PureDrifting I ordered the 17-55 kit based on some of your insights. (I've got the 24-70 2.8 & 70-200 2.8) I will probably use the 70-200 for a lot of the day, hence the questions. In the past I mounted it to the tripod & hung my 5d off of the back with a Ninja2 & it seemed to be okay. Didn't know how much heavier the c100 was than the 5d.
Also which codec is preferred - mp4 or AVCHD? (audio is not critical for this shoot) - I do have a Ninja 2 I could use but am trying to simplify the rig a bit. (previous rig was 5dmkiii mounted atop soundevices mixpre d with Ninja 2 on top) thank you for any tips!
Also which codec is preferred - mp4 or AVCHD? (audio is not critical for this shoot) - I do have a Ninja 2 I could use but am trying to simplify the rig a bit. (previous rig was 5dmkiii mounted atop soundevices mixpre d with Ninja 2 on top) thank you for any tips!
Puredrifting, I'm in the market for a cheap lens support like this. Can you send the link to the one you mentioned? Thanks!