Samsung NX1 Log Gamma Dynamic Range

How does the NX1 with this new LOG feature compare against the Sony a7S with S-LOG2? I'm not even sure if Samsung gave a name for its LOG feature for the NX1.
 
Regarding cool cards for white balance - I keep some scraps of 1/8 & 1/4 CTO and CTB handy (actually I have a few warm and cool gel scraps that aren't true CT but look nice). Lets you try several WB settings, just stick one in front of the lens when you balance. Good thing is, they take like zero space.
 
diegocervo said:
no, I never mixed footage from these 2 cameras.
I sold my c100 last year
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Fantastic, natural looking shots! Bravo! What ND filter did you use, if I may ask?

Did you, by any chance, set the camera to broadcast safe luminance levels when you took those phenomenal videos? 16-235? I've read in a few places that this helps with blown highlights since the NX1 doesn't have the best dynamic range (like most consumer grade cameras in the sub-$2,000 price range).

I'd love to see what Samsung can and will do to future NX1 firmware to suck the most out of their advanced 6k sensor. I'm sure it can do much more than what we've seen so far on the video front. The question remains if the hardware/software surrounding it can take advantage of the capabilities (like 10 bit, 4:2:2), and whether or not Samsung will act like Canon and purposely gimp their consumer gear.
 
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Does Samsung have any pro cameras that could be put at risk? Do they even have any partnerships with pro camera producers that could strain the relationship? I think it is no to both, but there might be something I'm not aware of. So they could really pull out all the stops and make the most kick ass small form factor camera that their hardware can allow. The h.265 is one of the biggest holdbacks right now, and might be one thing they can't overcome internally because that codec is probably part of the hardware.
 
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Does Samsung have any pro cameras that could be put at risk? Do they even have any partnerships with pro camera producers that could strain the relationship? I think it is no to both, but there might be something I'm not aware of. So they could really pull out all the stops and make the most kick ass small form factor camera that their hardware can allow. The h.265 is one of the biggest holdbacks right now, and might be one thing they can't overcome internally because that codec is probably part of the hardware.
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They could probably improve the H.265 encoding matrix via firmware, not just up the bitrate. However, as to pro cameras... Samsung may be trying to break into that field and/or perhaps they make sensors for other manufacturers as well. Those could be stumbling blocks for us lowly consumers.

We shall see...
 
I think the only things at risk might be memory and displays, Sony doesn't seem to have the same problem with making sensors for Fuji, Nikon, and probably a bunch of competing pro motion cameras. I think it would only be up to desire for Samsung to decide if the money would be wisely spent. But that's just speculation on my part.

At any rate, I'm following what's happening with the NX-1, they might unleash it for everyone to help decide if something more "professional" is possible.
 
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I think the only things at risk might be memory and displays, Sony doesn't seem to have the same problem with making sensors for Fuji, Nikon, and probably a bunch of competing pro motion cameras. I think it would only be up to desire for Samsung to decide if the money would be wisely spent. But that's just speculation on my part.

At any rate, I'm following what's happening with the NX-1, they might unleash it for everyone to help decide if something more "professional" is possible.
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I've heard rumors that Samsung is letting the Magic Lantern crew have a go at it. Hopefully, it's not just rumors.
 
Imagine this cam getting raw! That could change the landscape for sure. Please let this not be a rumor.
 
Why would they need to let the Magic Lantern crew get their hands on it? They have their own software engineers in house to unleash any untapped functionality?

Really glad the NX1 is out, its really shown the others how to do it in terms of listen to end users and providing FW updates.
 
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I think the only things at risk might be memory and displays, Sony doesn't seem to have the same problem with making sensors for Fuji, Nikon, and probably a bunch of competing pro motion cameras...
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Olympus (Sony still owns a portion of it) and Panasonic and ... the crux is that Sony will sell anything they make but the newest and the greatest will always carry a caveat.

Samsung can theoretically jump into the $2,000-$5,000 range in an instant but they are probably concerned that the Japanese still have a huge distribution advantage everywhere across the globe.


TheTrickster said:
Why would they need to let the Magic Lantern crew get their hands on it? They have their own software engineers in house to unleash any untapped functionality? ...
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From what I read Samsung might be willing to make their cameras open source, so one wouldn't necessarily need ML, as anyone with knowledge of codes and photographic/video equipment could try to program certain parameters ... or risk bricking the whole thing.
 
JohnTollwannabe said:
Fantastic, natural looking shots! Bravo! What ND filter did you use, if I may ask?

Did you, by any chance, set the camera to broadcast safe luminance levels when you took those phenomenal videos? 16-235? I've read in a few places that this helps with blown highlights since the NX1 doesn't have the best dynamic range (like most consumer grade cameras in the sub-$2,000 price range).

I'd love to see what Samsung can and will do to future NX1 firmware to suck the most out of their advanced 6k sensor. I'm sure it can do much more than what we've seen so far on the video front. The question remains if the hardware/software surrounding it can take advantage of the capabilities (like 10 bit, 4:2:2), and whether or not Samsung will act like Canon and purposely gimp their consumer gear.
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Thank's a lot :)

I use Hoya PRO NDs and set the luminance levels at 0-255, since I noticed slightly less banding with that setting.

The frame grabs that I posted are all from videos...which are basically identical to the pictures I take of any scene. I do stock photos and videos during the same job.

Recently I'm not using anymore the NX1 for stills and went back to the Sony A7R, as the only way to get great skin tones with Samsung is to shoot JPEG. Raw is still not supported very well either in Lightroom or Capture One and some colors tend to have a weird hue that is not easy to correct.

The nice thing of doing 4k on the NX1, is that quality is so decent that sometimes I've been taking screengrabs from videos and put them on sale on stock agencies as still images.
 
Greg_E said:
I think the only things at risk might be memory and displays, Sony doesn't seem to have the same problem with making sensors for Fuji, Nikon, and probably a bunch of competing pro motion cameras. I think it would only be up to desire for Samsung to decide if the money would be wisely spent. But that's just speculation on my part....
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And here might lie the answer.


While Sony does not disclose its client list, Apple is well known as its top customer, followed by Samsung, which analysts said recently switched to Sony sensors for the Galaxy S6 after using its own in the S5...
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/06/09/sony-sensors-idUSL3N0YV2FU20150609
 
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