rolling shutter and jello DSLR

Rolling shutter is inherent in the CMOS-based design of the DSLRs and many camcorders. If you want something without rolling shutter or jello, you have to go with a CCD-based camera, something like the Panasonic HPX-170 or HMC-150 would be worth looking into.
 
In the 2500$ range i was about to buy the canon 5d MK2 but I can not spend that amount on a CAM that got these problems.
 
Even the Red One camera has some of this.

Canons are the best out there right now, but could change soon. I think its acceptable if you know what your working with and keep the camera stable.
 
jonE5 said:
Even the Red One camera has some of this.

Canons are the best out there right now, but could change soon. I think its acceptable if you know what your working with and keep the camera stable.
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This is nuts why would people buy these things then? I think i will buy the Nikon D3100 till they fix the problem.
 
The reason i said that was if they all have this problem why pay all this money for them?
 
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blastdvx said:
This is nuts why would people buy these things then?
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Because of the image quality that left a market (that was already obsessed about quality) stunned at what could be achieved, for the staggering low light performance, the trivial ease at which depth of field can be controlled, the range of available lenses . . .etc etc.

blastdvx said:
I think i will buy the Nikon D3100 till they fix the problem.
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What can I say to that - other than the 'jello' on the D3100 is, of course, significantly worse.

'Jello' - as presented as a problem - is one third the camera and two thirds the operator. It exists on RED, it even exists on film cameras (really) - it's one of the compromises that comes with so many other benefits, work around it and it generally doesn't cause much of a problem.
 
And even film has a bit of skew on fast pans. Go watch the original Bourne Identity. In the control room scenes, which was shot on a steadycam, the camera whips past monitors and such which skew noticeably.
 
El Director said:
And even film has a bit of skew on fast pans.
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Disputed. I know people like to say this, but -- there's just no evidence of it.

When I get some time I'll put it to a definitive test, but I just don't think it happens.

Go watch the original Bourne Identity. In the control room scenes, which was shot on a steadycam, the camera whips past monitors and such which skew noticeably.
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I suggest that it is because of the camera leaning, not because of some "skew" in the film.
 
Disputed. I know people like to say this, but -- there's just no evidence of it.
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Dispute all you want. Can you explain the skew then in the scene I'm talking about? The nature of the shutter wiping the frame of film is similar to the concept of how a CMOS sensor works. The image ends up exposed from the top down, so if the image moves fast enough (as in the scene I mentioned), things will get slightly skewed.
 
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