Rigging the O7Q

I'm also looking for a rigging solution, but not in the EVF spot. I want to mount mine as a counterweight on the back of the rig. I want it to be centered over the 15mm rails, and attached to both rails. Imagine sunnyjimfilms picture, but with the O7Q instead of the battery. Does anyone have a way to do this?
 
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I thought you said "de-rigging," because ours is all packed up and ready to go out for a gig. The O7Q is in the black Pelican case (model 1600) on the right, along with the FS700, a Blackmagic Pocket Camera, a couple of Metabones adapters, and other equipment. It is fun to see the stuff all broken down too.

Our studio, shown here, is 40-feet by 20-feet by 15-feet high, and serves as both a video and an audio recording studio. Looks like a library, but it's not. Every other shelf has books for absorption and diffusion (books are alternately in and out to further diffuse). In between the books are ecologically-safe acoustic panels that have a better sound rating that Corning Fiberglass panels.

This is one of four live rooms, and has 32-audio track inputs and 8 TRS returns. There is also a live drum room with 24 audio inputs, a vocal room, and another large room with keyboards, including a Hammond B-3. In addition, there is an audio control room, a video storage room, plus a break room, a load-in room, and, of course, a bathroom.

We mostly record modern folk music, but are now working with various groups, including support from the Library of Congress, on a video documentary called the "Michigan Music Project. I will try to include a graphic.

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ajp9039 said:
I'm also looking for a rigging solution, but not in the EVF spot. I want to mount mine as a counterweight on the back of the rig. I want it to be centered over the 15mm rails, and attached to both rails. Imagine sunnyjimfilms picture, but with the O7Q instead of the battery. Does anyone have a way to do this?
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I used this configuration on a recent shoot using a cine arm screwed into the right-side hole directly behind the fs700 LCD. Mainly because I had no other mounting solution, so I hobbled it together. I'm using the tilta baseplate that does have rails at the back, but I just didn't have a rail based mount handy.
 

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I have the Alphatron EVF works great with FS700 - they also have great support should you need help or have any concerns.
 
Kyron said:
I used this configuration on a recent shoot using a cine arm screwed into the right-side hole directly behind the fs700 LCD. Mainly because I had no other mounting solution, so I hobbled it together. I'm using the tilta baseplate that does have rails at the back, but I just didn't have a rail based mount handy.
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Do you offset the balance of the smallhd like that on the left somehow?
 
Mitch Gross said:
I played with the Edelkrone rig a bit at NAB and it was a good, inexpensive solution. Wooden Camera showed an Odyssey with their EVF/Monitor mount and many people liked this as well. And if you want to see a super-versatile rig, check out what Solid Camera is doing for the Odyssey7Q.

http://www.newsshooter.com/2014/04/...id-camera-mounting-system-for-the-odyssey-7q/
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That solid camera mount system seems to be pretty amazing. I just can't justify spending close to $2000 or more to mount a monitor, which is how much it would roughly cost to rig things up like it is shown in the video. Lanparte makes a neat looking inexpensive solution as well

http://www.lanparte.com/html/189.html

I haven't used it but I have found their stuff to be well made (I own a Lanparte rig).
 
I picked up an FS700 a few days before I left the country to shoot a feature. This is the rig we're using, pieced together out of parts at hand:
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FS700 body, Odyssey 7Q mounted with ULCS support arms, Kinotehnik EVF, Anton Bauer plate on home made bracket, Solid Camera PL mount, Kowa anamorphic, Arri FF4, Arri MB28, Genustech studio baseplate and a Manfrotto quick release mount as a spacer.

When I get back home I'll redo the build with a lot of Solid Camera gear. Carlos at SC has a ton of field experience and knows what's needed, and what's not going to work well on a shoot. Quality of Solid Camera gear is industry top notch. The EVF/ monitor holder Mitch referenced looks great. I have a lot of Anton Bauer batteries so usually go with an AB power solution. BTW a single Dionic 90 lasts most of the day, powering this setup. So two Dionics do the trick. I like to keep things as simple as possible- prefer 1 battery solution, and lots of those batteries and chargers. I've always felt the V-mounts are two easy to jar loose off the plate.

I just bought some GenusTech stuff from HK and I've been very happy with the build quality and very happy with the price (demo specials). I've just replaced some Tilta gear I bought for some C500s with Genustech pieces. I also have and really like their Elite matte box. Siimple and well built. Inexpensive without being cheap. So far it's been holding up fine.

The Kinotehnik EVF is functional. Better screen than the old Zacuto EVF Pro. The new, just announced Zacuto EVF looks pretty good, and worth a look. For myself EVF's are necessary when shooting outdoors in the sun. Still waiting for the ideal EVF.

The tripod head is an oldish Ronford Series 2000 2015. Built this century- after the year 2000, though it looks like a relic. I have an O'Connor 1030HDS and Miller 25 but I needed a decent "large" head and this was a fraction of the cost of an O'Connor 2065 or 2575. Like all things Ronford, solid and well built, however unusual the fluid adjustments are- one does get used to it quickly.

The Convergent Design Odyssey 7Q and our current flow puts the FS700 RAW in Alexa territory. Definitely better in low light. Possibly better in skin tone. And I'd like to do a head to head comparison with highlight retention.
 

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Some things just work. Ronford Baker heads are one of those things. I brought mine in 2001 and use it week in week out. It's been serviced twice. It's like an old mate!
 
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How heavy is the Solid Camera solution? It looks as though it might add a lot of weight to the rig.
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The core system with dovetail is 300 grams or 10.5oz. To compare, a typical Sony NP-F970 L-series battery is 350 grams.


True North said:
That solid camera mount system seems to be pretty amazing. I just can't justify spending close to $2000 or more to mount a monitor, which is how much it would roughly cost to rig things up like it is shown in the video.
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While being the cheapest possible option is not really the goal there is no reason you have to spend that kind of money. The system is modular and starts under 200. You pick and choose the options you need and will never out grow it. You can get a very basic kit that supports the 7Q on a 15mm iris rod very rigidly for under 300. You always have the options to add clutched articulating arm, battery plates, etc. The hand grips do triple duty - kick stand, hand grip, and baby-pin mount all-in one. The full frame protects the 7Q, provides near infinite mounting options for the 7Q and the various accessories like wireless receivers. Add a neck strap that holds the unit in a viewable position while walking around (AC's, directors, etc.) For those that like to feature/cost compare - take a look at all the features and capability. No other system lets you cover every possibility and still start small.

Why not pick something that will grow with you a little at a time?
 
So I'm nearly there I think.

Disregard the v-lock sort of just sitting there... gonna be replacing it with the sony battery plate from Westside AV i think... think to attach it to the right side where the rosette is to balance it more towards centre (its leaning left).

Used bits of edelkrone and zacuto to get this.

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Here's a better photo:
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(I happen to have this pretty awesome view, so testing the resolution out on all the fine detail of the buildings)
 
rx8pilot said:
The core system with dovetail is 300 grams or 10.5oz. To compare, a typical Sony NP-F970 L-series battery is 350 grams.




While being the cheapest possible option is not really the goal there is no reason you have to spend that kind of money. The system is modular and starts under 200. You pick and choose the options you need and will never out grow it. You can get a very basic kit that supports the 7Q on a 15mm iris rod very rigidly for under 300. You always have the options to add clutched articulating arm, battery plates, etc. The hand grips do triple duty - kick stand, hand grip, and baby-pin mount all-in one. The full frame protects the 7Q, provides near infinite mounting options for the 7Q and the various accessories like wireless receivers. Add a neck strap that holds the unit in a viewable position while walking around (AC's, directors, etc.) For those that like to feature/cost compare - take a look at all the features and capability. No other system lets you cover every possibility and still start small.

Why not pick something that will grow with you a little at a time?
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Ive be been waiting for the solid camera one. My 7q can't be moved around too much more without protection. My main concern is I already have an alphatron evf and westsideav evf mount and all the run and gun bottom shoulder bits and vlock off the back.

when I saw the video on newsshooter of the solid camera where being able to have the 7q facing to the side. Not front and back ; required the top camera plate and their handle vs stock handle. (Which would then null out the evf mount I have (which if still use for some situs and haven't got a 7q sun hood yet.

i presume in the meantime I could just mount the solid camera 7q cage on a magic arm to the fs700?

I do like the full setup, but it adds up to very pricey.

id probably buy it with some handles and battery plates in that case.

Anyone think you'd need an adapter or plate just to magic arm it to the top of the fs700?
 
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