Red Scarlet Announcement Info
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Jason Ramsey
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Matt Gottshalk
Resident Preditor
That is the question of the evening.
shadowgodes
Member
used Red one MYSTERIUM (not MX) will probably go for 7k$ now. it's 4k non MX sensor, much lower data rates, lower dynamic range, not as much options, no Epic form factor, no hdrx, etc...
shadowgodes
Member
presumably the same without hdrx. Same sensor, similar data rates etc. I don't see why it wouldn't be identical
J Davis
Veteran
Canon Mount Package
SCARLET-X with side SSD and Al Canon Mount Package: $13,965
Includes: Scarlet-X Brain
Includes: DSMC Side Handle
Includes: 5" Touch LCD
Includes: 2x REDVolts
Includes: REDVolt travel charger
Includes: REDMAG 64GB
Includes: RED STATION 1.8
Will begin shipping on Dec 1
SCARLET-X with side SSD and Al Canon Mount Package: $13,965
Includes: Scarlet-X Brain
Includes: DSMC Side Handle
Includes: 5" Touch LCD
Includes: 2x REDVolts
Includes: REDVolt travel charger
Includes: REDMAG 64GB
Includes: RED STATION 1.8
Will begin shipping on Dec 1
Darky Mikado
Active member
J Davis
Veteran
FAQ
The Bomb Squad will be buried for the next week or so… so please expect delays. We would encourage you to read the FAQs (we will update) and try and resist the temptation to call in unless you have a question that we can't answer here.
When will Scarlet-X begin shipping?
Dec 1st, 2011 for Scarlet with aluminum mount. Orders for Scarlet with a Ti PL mount will ship earlier. Add $1500.
Are there any considerations or discounted packages for RED ONE owners on Scarlet-X?
No. RED ONE owners have special consideration for EPIC upgrades only.
How can you offer Scarlet-X at this price when EPIC is so much more?
Data rates and processing power. ASICs that weren't fast enough for EPIC… just became a gold mine for Scarlet. This, and board component reduction, allows us to lower the data rate throughput and significantly reduce our costs over volume.
Why can't I shoot 24fps 4K HDRx?
Data rates and processing power. We are working on a future version of HDRx with modified compression to enable this possibility. It will be a firmware upgrade and free.
Can Scarlet-X be upgraded to the new Dragon sensor when it is released?
Yes. However the upgrade will be more expensive than upgrading an EPIC due to the necessity to change several primary boards. There will still be data rate limitations to Scarlet after the upgrade as compared with EPIC.
When will the Dragon sensor upgrade be available?
2nd half of 2012.
Will I be able to get RED Armor extended warranty for SCARLET-X?
Yes, RED Armor will be available for SCARLET-X for $1500.
Will firmware upgrades be free for Scarlet-X as they are for EPIC?
Yes.
Does Scarlet have the same native dynamic range as EPIC?
Yes.
Will all features be enabled in Scarlet-X when it ships?
No. We will continue to add features as time goes on, some of which were never expected. Scarlet-X feature additions and improvements will happen simultaneously with EPIC.
Will there be a different REDCINE-X Professional for Scarlet?
No. REDCINE-X Professional works both EPIC and Scarlet-X files seemlessly.
Will all EPIC Modules work on Scarlet-X?
Yes.
Are there any modules that are specifically for Scarlet-X?
No. EPIC and Scarlet share exactly the same accessories.
Since Scarlet-X has a lower data rate, does it burn less power and have greater battery life?
Yes. More than slight and less than a lot.
Does Scarlet-X have the same user-interface as EPIC?
Yes. They are brother and sister.
Is the side SSD module on Scarlet the same as the one on Epic?
Yes.
Will the Ti PL Mount and Ti Canon Mount work on Scarlet?
Yes. All mounts for EPIC work with Scarlet. Everything in the EPIC/Scarlet system is interchangeable.
Can I upgrade to the Ti Canon mount or Ti PL mount instead of buying the Aluminum Canon mount?
Yes. You just pay the difference in price. And it will not hold up your order. Actually, it will ship 1st because we have a supply of Ti PL mounts.
Will anything be is short supply when I order my Scarlet?
Yes. Side Handles, REDmote and EVF. Any delay in Scarlet is most likely to be caused by the Canon aluminum mount.
When will you get production of all parts up to reasonable levels?
February. We have spent a ton of energy to get out of back order status. The team has targeted February as the "end of pain" month.
How much does Scarlet weigh?
Exactly the same as EPIC.
Will Scarlet have Playback enabled?
Yes. Playback is being released before shipping.
The Bomb Squad will be buried for the next week or so… so please expect delays. We would encourage you to read the FAQs (we will update) and try and resist the temptation to call in unless you have a question that we can't answer here.
When will Scarlet-X begin shipping?
Dec 1st, 2011 for Scarlet with aluminum mount. Orders for Scarlet with a Ti PL mount will ship earlier. Add $1500.
Are there any considerations or discounted packages for RED ONE owners on Scarlet-X?
No. RED ONE owners have special consideration for EPIC upgrades only.
How can you offer Scarlet-X at this price when EPIC is so much more?
Data rates and processing power. ASICs that weren't fast enough for EPIC… just became a gold mine for Scarlet. This, and board component reduction, allows us to lower the data rate throughput and significantly reduce our costs over volume.
Why can't I shoot 24fps 4K HDRx?
Data rates and processing power. We are working on a future version of HDRx with modified compression to enable this possibility. It will be a firmware upgrade and free.
Can Scarlet-X be upgraded to the new Dragon sensor when it is released?
Yes. However the upgrade will be more expensive than upgrading an EPIC due to the necessity to change several primary boards. There will still be data rate limitations to Scarlet after the upgrade as compared with EPIC.
When will the Dragon sensor upgrade be available?
2nd half of 2012.
Will I be able to get RED Armor extended warranty for SCARLET-X?
Yes, RED Armor will be available for SCARLET-X for $1500.
Will firmware upgrades be free for Scarlet-X as they are for EPIC?
Yes.
Does Scarlet have the same native dynamic range as EPIC?
Yes.
Will all features be enabled in Scarlet-X when it ships?
No. We will continue to add features as time goes on, some of which were never expected. Scarlet-X feature additions and improvements will happen simultaneously with EPIC.
Will there be a different REDCINE-X Professional for Scarlet?
No. REDCINE-X Professional works both EPIC and Scarlet-X files seemlessly.
Will all EPIC Modules work on Scarlet-X?
Yes.
Are there any modules that are specifically for Scarlet-X?
No. EPIC and Scarlet share exactly the same accessories.
Since Scarlet-X has a lower data rate, does it burn less power and have greater battery life?
Yes. More than slight and less than a lot.
Does Scarlet-X have the same user-interface as EPIC?
Yes. They are brother and sister.
Is the side SSD module on Scarlet the same as the one on Epic?
Yes.
Will the Ti PL Mount and Ti Canon Mount work on Scarlet?
Yes. All mounts for EPIC work with Scarlet. Everything in the EPIC/Scarlet system is interchangeable.
Can I upgrade to the Ti Canon mount or Ti PL mount instead of buying the Aluminum Canon mount?
Yes. You just pay the difference in price. And it will not hold up your order. Actually, it will ship 1st because we have a supply of Ti PL mounts.
Will anything be is short supply when I order my Scarlet?
Yes. Side Handles, REDmote and EVF. Any delay in Scarlet is most likely to be caused by the Canon aluminum mount.
When will you get production of all parts up to reasonable levels?
February. We have spent a ton of energy to get out of back order status. The team has targeted February as the "end of pain" month.
How much does Scarlet weigh?
Exactly the same as EPIC.
Will Scarlet have Playback enabled?
Yes. Playback is being released before shipping.
Jaime Valles
Veteran
If it's the same dynamic range as the Epic (even without HDRx) it will be unstoppable. I rarely use the phrase "game changer" but I'm beginning to think this really merits it.
Barry_Green
Moderator
Sensor is only part of the equation though. The f3 and fs100 share the same sensor but the f3 is 800 iso and the fs100 is 320. What's behind the sensor matters a lot. I would expect the epic has better processing for the price diff. Jim once compared the epic to a "truck chassis" and the scarlet to a "car chassis."
shadowgodes
Member
so Scarlet just killed the Red MX
shadowgodes
Member
Well the above quote from Red states that scarlet will have identical DR to Epic
Jason Ramsey
Admin
from Jarred:
May the Universe bless, Jim Jannard!
Sony, Canon, and Panasonic had better go back to the drawing board and get serious.
Cinema film making (with a FULLY CAPABLE cine camera) just hit 10K.
I love me some F3, AF100, FS100, (benefit of the doubt C300).....NOT EVEN CLOSE to getting my money. I kid you not!!! Wake up!!!! Their only hope of getting my 15K for a cine camera is if Jim Jannard drops the ball in manufacturing. Other than that....I just joined the Red Army. (I AM CERTAIN that I am not alone.) Wake up Sony, Canon, and Panasonic!!!!!
They will get better (Sony, Canon, and Panny)....or they will focus on other product lines (which is fine)....but I can't imagine why I'd spend money on any of the others....(unless they drop the ball in manufacturing).... Here's to hoping that they can deliver LIKE CRAZY!!!!!
Sony, Canon, and Panasonic had better go back to the drawing board and get serious.
Cinema film making (with a FULLY CAPABLE cine camera) just hit 10K.
I love me some F3, AF100, FS100, (benefit of the doubt C300).....NOT EVEN CLOSE to getting my money. I kid you not!!! Wake up!!!! Their only hope of getting my 15K for a cine camera is if Jim Jannard drops the ball in manufacturing. Other than that....I just joined the Red Army. (I AM CERTAIN that I am not alone.) Wake up Sony, Canon, and Panasonic!!!!!
They will get better (Sony, Canon, and Panny)....or they will focus on other product lines (which is fine)....but I can't imagine why I'd spend money on any of the others....(unless they drop the ball in manufacturing).... Here's to hoping that they can deliver LIKE CRAZY!!!!!
rogar-BigGrin(DBG)